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Related: About this forumWatch Bernie Sanders laugh out loud at Trump's daft claim 'nobody knew health care' is complicated
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)His laughter is highly inappropriate.
Does he not grasp the fact that a majority of Democrats consider him partially responsible for Trump's election win?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)They genuinely LOVE Bernie. That's why they gave him a deck of 51 cards to play with!
dancePop
(54 posts)elleng
(130,864 posts)I'm trying to temper my temper.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)On Election Day, Senator Bernie Sanders earned the 2016 Ralph Nader Award for the Leftist Most Responsible for Helping Republicans Win the Presidency. True, Donald Trump cleverly exploited voters frustrations. And Hillary Clintons campaign in 2016 was as rigid and empty as it was when she lost in 2008. Still, Sanders helped Clinton lose. His insurgency pushed her too far left to prevent an effective re-centering in the fall, while goading her into wooing different constituencies rather than uniting the nation.
In fairness, Sanders ran a surprisingly effective campaign tapping the same anti-establishment fury Donald Trump stirred. Although Sanders and Trump are very different, their campaigns were not. Each treated Hillary Clinton as a compromised, Wall Streetworshipping, Establishment sellout. Both demonized Washington insiders and free trade, rather than tackling the real structural problem: the United States deindustrialized because Americans refuse to pay what it costs to hire American workers and instead buy cheaper imported products. As a result, just as Ralph Nader siphoned tens of thousands of votes on Election Day 2000 in Florida from Al Gore, causing the deadlock and George W. Bushs victory, Bernie Sanders similar vampire effect enfeebled Hillary Clinton.
This dynamic followed a classic historical pattern. Sanders drew Clinton from the center toward the Democrats extreme flank. That shift paralleled Jimmy Carters leftward lurch when Ted Kennedy ran in 1980, and George H.W. Bushs rightwing swerve when Pat Buchanan rebelled in 1992. Each time, the frontrunners felt forced to placate loyalists they should have been able to take for granted, while embracing extreme positions that haunted them during the general election campaign.
http://time.com/4569766/bernie-sanders-ralph-nader-2016/
tecelote
(5,122 posts)What a load of crap.
Truth. Most Democrats love Bernie.
onethatcares
(16,166 posts)I love Bernie. And I'm a Democrat for life
DK504
(3,847 posts)Those that claim they wouldn't vote for anyone but Bernie or those that voted for Stein or Johnson can pat themselves on the back for this crisis we are now in.
Bernie did a great job at bringing Hillary back to the left and I am very thankful for that. I voted for Bernie in the primaries, but Hillary in the general.
The Ralph Nader award goes to those that voted 3rd party.
Ned Flanders
(233 posts)and the "majority of democrats" at this site.
What a bummer. I guess you prefer butthurt and anger?
JudyM
(29,225 posts)about a guy who continues to work his butt off -- as a key Resistance leader, and introducing legislation to promote Dem issues at a rapid rate. He's introduced 2 bills just in February: one to preserve Social Security and the other to allow importation of safe medicines.
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FakeNoose
(32,628 posts)I've never seen him smile or laugh, so I thought maybe he was missing his uppers, or something.
But really when Trump makes such a patently stupid statement as that, he has to laugh. What else can he do?