Iowa candidate models how Democrats can win back working-class voters

[applegrove]

Last edited Sat Sep 23, 2017, 10:08 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.google.ca/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59c456a0e4b08d661550415a/amp

[videohead5]

1. It's also voter turnout

In Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.Trump received less votes in 2016 than George Bush received in 2004 and Bush lost all 3 states.it was voter suppression helped by Russian propaganda.

[stevepal]

2. And please don't forget the voting machines.

When you either can't or just don't VERIFY THE VOTE, there's no way to even know what the vote actually was, so there's no way to even make a statement about how the vote was split up among groups. You can't say ANYTHING about the vote if you can't verify what that vote actually was. The voting machines are easily hacked, easily intentionally programmed to spit out the percentage that the programmer wants, easily rigged in a hundred different ways. Hackers can come from any country, Russia has some very good ones, and just using information publicly available, hackers can easily hack into the machines, especially the central tabulators and rig elections.

Why not just go for HAND-COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS? It's cheaper in the long run, it's the gold standard in accuracy, it can give communities or election workers great pride to take part in a REAL ELECTION. Why not do it?

[videohead5]

3. I thought something was fishy

Election night when the Detroit Free Press called Michigan for Hillary after sampling 80% of the precincts.

[Honeycombe8]

5. We live in an electronic world, now. But there should be a paper printout to verify.

Altho if a machine flips a vote, then the paper printout would just show the resulting vote, I guess.

[KPN]

8. Fuck the electronic world. Geezus!

[Honeycombe8]

9. Thanks for the kind words. Don't shoot the messenger. It ain't gonna happen. Period. nt

[Honeycombe8]

4. Long ad, but good.

But about the small family farm instead of industry...that's not gonna happen, IMO. Industry brings big bucks, and not many people want to have a small farm. It doesn't pay and it's very risky & hard to make a living.

Sounds like she's for the $15 min. wage. Are Iowans in favor of that?

Good ad, though. Touches on a lot of issues. I guess this is an internet ad? Does she have a good chance of winning?

[applegrove]

6. Darn. I forgot to put a link. I will look for it.

[applegrove]

7. Here is the link.

https://www.google.ca/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59c456a0e4b08d661550415a/amp