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Bill Maher New Rules: The Great Wife Hope (Original Post) Initech May 2019 OP
Funny, but not gonna happen n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2019 #1
Warren calls Trump True Blue American May 2019 #2
Why do people give her a pass? She's as bad as he is IMO. rainin May 2019 #3
Bill Maher is Wrong erpowers May 2019 #4
I thought this bit was a sign that Maher's politics is broken. philly_bob May 2019 #5
Maher doesn't understand non-political people. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #6
spot on. sad, but spot on. if you believe in evolutionary psychology, mopinko May 2019 #7

rainin

(3,010 posts)
3. Why do people give her a pass? She's as bad as he is IMO.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:12 PM
May 2019

Why would she "end this reign of terror"? She's the Queen. And yes, she despises him, but there are poor women who stay for less. She's calculating.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
4. Bill Maher is Wrong
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:44 PM
May 2019

Melania Trump leaving Donald Trump would not cause Donald Trump to change the way he acts. Yes, Trump would likely get angry and lash out for at least a short period of time. However, there would be at least one other woman waiting to get into a relationship with him. Even if he did not get into another relationship he would continue doing what he is doing.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
5. I thought this bit was a sign that Maher's politics is broken.
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:11 PM
May 2019

It's like a position from despair and hopelesness.

I hope he recovers -- I expect he will -- but this might have been a low point.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. Maher doesn't understand non-political people.
Sun May 12, 2019, 09:07 AM
May 2019

Last edited Sun May 12, 2019, 10:02 AM - Edit history (2)

Melanie & Jerry Hall are married to powerful men with money. The men hold all the power. No doubt there are prenup agreements involved. They're not likely to walk away from the money spigot. They aren't political and don't care about politics, or they wouldn't have married these vile men, to begin with.

They also don't hold much power over their husbands. Their husbands have had multiple wives who are alike in one respect: they don't try to interfere in the man's "business." The men married them because they're airheads without strong convictions, who love to go shopping and live the good life. It's a partnership where both of their needs are met.

The old men aren't going to kick out their arm candy, and the women aren't going to leave their money spigot.

Their marriages are more of a business agreement than a real marriage. Here's this old man with money but no physical attractiveness or body, who wants the appearance of being virile again (and maybe an occasional sex act - thank you, Viagra), and who likes having a partner in life, someone to go to events and dinner with, who deals with the household staff and the kids. Then there is a much younger babe with looks & sex appeal who wants not to have to worry about money and who can get her status elevated. So they make an arrangement. All the babe cares about is the money and status. Not how he gets it (altho I assume there must be some line).

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
7. spot on. sad, but spot on. if you believe in evolutionary psychology,
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:38 AM
May 2019

which i do, you would see that this is exactly how it works.

if chimps do something, tribes do something, and ancient civilizations do something, it's probably genetic.
in chimp troops, when there is a power struggle to overthrow the headman, if the top females want him out, they line up w their backs turned, and he knows it's over.
if they back him, they line up next to him, and the challengers know it is over.

then there is lysistrata.

(imho, this is the heart of male objections to female power, but that is a topic for another day.)

it is sad that it comes to this, but he is right that the instinctual power of this is obvious. it would absolutely deal a mortal blow.

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