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JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:38 PM May 2019

View the long freight train of satellites in the Starlink Group.

As many here already know, Musk launched the first of the Starlink sats on Thursday. They will eventually be used for global internet (pending Space Force Supreme Command approval, I guess).

Anyway, the schedule is now up at n2yo. For those unfamiliar with the satellite tracking site, just click "10 day predictions" here and see when they will be visiting your neighborhood. It takes about ten minutes to go horizon to horizon.

It's best to register if you plan to check often for this or ISS tracking because it keeps your location. They don't seem to spam.

https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=74001

Here they are streaming across the Netherlands skies on Friday:


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To be honest, I'm not sure I'm going to like seeing these once they're all streaking around like a hypersonic legion of lightning bugs. They're said to be very bright.

Read more about them on Jalopnik:

https://jalopnik.com/spacexs-starlink-satellites-are-forming-an-impressive-c-1835036656
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View the long freight train of satellites in the Starlink Group. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo May 2019 OP
I do the same for the International Space Station. SergeStorms May 2019 #1
n2yo also tracks the ISS and many other satellites. JohnnyRingo May 2019 #2
"It's usually cloudy"..... SergeStorms May 2019 #7
Thanks for the post! MontanaMama May 2019 #3
Before getting excited, read the story of "Iridium"... brooklynite May 2019 #4
Iridium was quickly supersceded by terrestrial coverage/bandwidth. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #6
They won't be bright for too much longer. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #5

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
1. I do the same for the International Space Station.
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:53 AM
May 2019

You can register at NASA and they'll send an email whenever it's within viewing sight of your location. I'd like to see this as well, so I might as well register and take a gander. If nothing else I get to look to look at all the beautiful stars. Thanks for the post!

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
2. n2yo also tracks the ISS and many other satellites.
Tue May 28, 2019, 03:11 AM
May 2019

It gives a ten day prediction rated by viewing quality.
It's usually cloudy that night though.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
7. "It's usually cloudy".....
Tue May 28, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019
How right you are! I noticed that list of other satellites, and I'll be on the lookout for some of them. I love watching the Space Station. Just thinking that they about 250 miles above earth traveling at 17,000 mph is mind blowing. I've been watching satellites since I was a kid in the 60s. They were rare then, but now there's so much junk up there it's hard NOT to see one on any given clear night. It's finding that clear night that's problematic.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
4. Before getting excited, read the story of "Iridium"...
Tue May 28, 2019, 06:52 AM
May 2019

Iridium, the global satellite phone company backed by Motorola (MOT), filed for bankruptcy in 1999, after the company had spent $5 billion to build and launch its infrastructure of satellites to provide worldwide wireless phone service. At the time, it was one of the 20 largest bankruptcies in US history. To work properly, the system needed 66 satellites. The creation of this enormous system forced the company to default on $1.5 billion of debt. The service had been such a failure that it only had 10,000 subscribers. This was, in part, due to technical difficulties with Iridium's first handsets. According to a Dartmouth Tuck Business School case study on the history of Iridium in 1998, the company forecast that it would have 500,000 subscribers by the following year. But, the service was expensive for customers, and the cellular phone business had started to take hold as its infrastructure was built out in most of the large developed countries. An Iridium handset cost $3,000 and talk time was as much as $5 a minute. Cellular service was not as broadly available, but it was far less expensive.Technology difficulties also made the service unpopular. Because Iridium's technology depended on line-of-sight between the phone antenna and the orbiting satellite, subscribers were unable to use the phone inside moving cars, inside buildings, and in many urban areas.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898610_1898625_1898640,00.html


Elon Musk is a great inventor; he is not necessarily a great businessman.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. Iridium was quickly supersceded by terrestrial coverage/bandwidth.
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:27 PM
May 2019

If SpaceX can control costs... at 200$ it's only double the cost of a regular cable modem to the end user. Compare a old Motorola flip phone to an iridium-compatible phone from the 90's. (Let alone service costs.)

If this works out like getting Fibre wirelessly, Comcast is dead in the water.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. They won't be bright for too much longer.
Tue May 28, 2019, 04:21 PM
May 2019

They are at 440km altitude, and will be boosted to 550km shortly.

They're already hard to spot, most of the time. They don't look like that photo unless optimal viewing angle. I spotted two of them last night, but they didn't glow like that, I just caught a couple bright flashes as they apparently rotated.

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