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at140

(6,110 posts)
11. Yes very interesting indeed
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:28 PM
Nov 2019

to find out who choked him to death, if that is what happened.
We will never know for sure, both Epstein and his killer ain't gonna talk.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
3. As stated in previous threads, this is a RW meme designed to hurt Democrats.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019

The dog trainer is a right-winger out to advance the insidious false meme that ME was murdered by the political left .

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
6. Yes, but how would it hurt Democrats if the creature has more to loose?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:43 PM
Nov 2019

Like David said, the creature is accused of raping a 13-year-old in Epstein's mansion, he was Epstein's pal, didn't Melania come from there? If anyone has more to loose by this memes its the creature, so I am puzzled why people think it would hurt Democrats. I am sure Democrats would have loved to question Epstein.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
10. If you view wingnut websites,
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:27 PM
Nov 2019

you will see that 90% of them are sure the Clintons had him killed. It's not a big leap for them, since they are already sure the Clintons have killed everyone they ever met who have died.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
8. Some on DU are very vociferous in stating it was suicide due to
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:19 PM
Nov 2019

the whole Epstein-was-murdered idea being some sort of anti-Democratic plot.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
7. Why is Fox news propagating this?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

I guess it is to try and create some smoke around the Clintons, because Bill has been accused of visiting Epstein's infamous underage girl island. Bill denies it vehemently. But the rumour is out there. Bill's soiree with a young Monica L. helps create that smoke.

But Trump was rumoured to have visited it as well. And there are more indications that Trump palled around with Epstein back then. Why open that can of worms if you are the Fox/Trump network? And woudn't the suspicion naturally fall on Bill Barr and the Justice department who were the ones in charge?

What would this conspiracy theory involve? What do they think happened? Are they really expecting people to believe that a couple of "deep state" Democratic agents covertly got inside the prison, then slipped sleeping powder into both guards coffees, then used an expert hacker to disable the cameras, allowing the agents to enter the cell, (I guess they also hacked or stolen the keys as well). Then kill him in a way that could be construed as a suicide, and quietly snuck back out of the building with no other cameras seeing them or anyone remembering them.

All of that being a huge risk, if they were caught, as it would have all but proven Bill Clinton was guilty, and would have taken all the heat off of Trump. The whole idea is just so untenable. But I guess thinking things through isn't a deplorables best talent.

I mean, by keeping this on the burner, knowing Republicans were in charge of Epstein at the time. At the very least, Barr should be criticized for such ineptitude in his job and being "outsmarted" by these deep state Tom Cruises and their Mission Impossible.

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