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Related: About this forumSlate "The Case for Impeaching Trump Over Ukraine Is Already Complete"
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/trump-impeachment-ukraine-guide-evidence.htmlThe House Intelligence Committee has finished its first round of public hearings regarding impeachment and will have to fight in court to compel the appearance of further witnesses. In the meantime, lets make the case for impeachment for Ukraine-related high crimes as simply as possible.
Donald Trump ordered that congressionally authorized military aid for Ukraine and an invitation to the White House for Ukraines president be withheld unless Ukraine made a public announcement that it was investigating Joe Bidens son and various 2016 election conspiracy theories. These investigations would have benefited Trump politically but would not have advanced any U.S. policy interest.
Now lets break that up into provable chunks.
[Donald Trump] [ordered that congressionally authorized military aid for Ukraine] [and an invitation to the White House for Ukraines president] [be withheld unless Ukraine made a public announcement that it was investigating] [Joe Biden and his son] [and various 2016 election conspiracy theories.] [These investigations would have benefited Trump politically] [but would not have advanced any U.S. policy interest.]
Now lets prove all the chunks!
[Donald Trump]: Testimony shows that Trump directed the acts that Democrats in the House are investigating. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland said that Trump told him and other officials at a May 2019 meeting to speak to his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, about Ukraine, and that Giuliani subsequently outlined investigations (discussed below) that would have to be undertaken before Trump would advance the United States diplomatic relationship with the country in the way that Sondland and others recommended. Former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker testified that interactions with Trump (and Giuliani) led him to conclude that Trumps participation in Ukraine diplomacy was contingent on the satisfaction of Giulianis requests. And State Department official David Holmes testified that he overheard Trump asking Sondland about investigations when Sondland spoke to Trump about Ukraine by phone in July at a lunch attended by Holmes and others.
snip - good read - the end below
The consensus position of U.S. intelligence agencies, meanwhile, is that the attack on Hillary Clintons campaign in 2016 was carried out by Russian military intelligence. Former National Security Council official Fiona Hill testified Thursday that accusations of Ukraine-Clinton collusion are a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.
As illustrated by the mere six weeks or so it took House Intel to assemble the above information, there is likely much more that Democrats could discover by continuing to investigate this and other Trump administration misconduct. But theyve got one article of impeachment already locked down.
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Slate "The Case for Impeaching Trump Over Ukraine Is Already Complete" (Original Post)
NRaleighLiberal
Nov 2019
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Stuart G
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