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PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:38 AM Mar 2020

If you can't find any hand sanitizer in the stores

check your cabinets, you might have the ingredients at home. It is very simple to make your own and maybe make some for friends as well. If you don't have any aloe vera gel, I think you might be able to use hair gel.

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If you can't find any hand sanitizer in the stores (Original Post) PatSeg Mar 2020 OP
or soap and water evertonfc Mar 2020 #1
That's what we have to rely on. lark Mar 2020 #2
You can spray surfaces with 3% hydrogen peroxide. I was able to find that. But, it has mucifer Mar 2020 #4
There is also white vinegar you can use. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #14
A capful (about a tsp.) of bleach in a galoon of water 2naSalit Mar 2020 #15
I have quite a few bottles of Isopropyl Alcohol PatSeg Mar 2020 #6
Atleast one of the vodka makers has said that is unlikely to work as the vodka they and most other cstanleytech Mar 2020 #17
Yeah PatSeg Mar 2020 #20
That's what I use PatSeg Mar 2020 #3
I have just put straight rubbing alcohol into little bottles that were laying around. Maraya1969 Mar 2020 #5
You could even dilute it with a little water PatSeg Mar 2020 #8
If you can't find isopropyl alcohol, EverClear is 95%. get it at the liquor store. nt Hotler Mar 2020 #7
Soap is supposed to be as good, if thorough. northoftheborder Mar 2020 #9
Oh yes PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
you can also use glycerin cab67 Mar 2020 #10
Oh yes, I hadn't thought of that PatSeg Mar 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author cab67 Mar 2020 #18
And will be totally useless if you use it instead of alcohol. LisaL Mar 2020 #22
Problem I read with this is if you get the proportion wrong it can cause problems. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #13
It appears that you can use glycerin PatSeg Mar 2020 #16
You can't use glycerin as a disinfectant for these purposes. cab67 Mar 2020 #19
Yep. Alcohol is what killing the virus. LisaL Mar 2020 #21
It renders alcohol less effective against bacteria. LisaL Mar 2020 #23
Yes, I had read that PatSeg Mar 2020 #24

lark

(23,061 posts)
2. That's what we have to rely on.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

I went to 6 stores Wed. and none of them had Isopropyl Alcohol, hand disinfectants, or toilet paper. Today Publix got in TP and kleenex, so we are good with that, but there's still no alcohol available, not even on Amazon. Amazon has been out of TP since Wed. when it showed in stock, but it got cancelled later that day. So hubby and I are using soap and water and scrubbing our hands. I'm allergic to bleach, but he is considering using that. My BFF has extra alcohol which I'm sure she would bring to me if needed, but yes I do wish I had it.

mucifer

(23,478 posts)
4. You can spray surfaces with 3% hydrogen peroxide. I was able to find that. But, it has
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:16 AM
Mar 2020

to dry for a few minutes before you wipe it and it has to be in a dark container. It is sensitive to light. I just put a spray top from another bottle on the hydrogen peroxide bottle. CDC says it does kill the virus if its on there for a few minutes before you wipe it.

cstanleytech

(26,230 posts)
14. There is also white vinegar you can use.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

Not as good as bleach of course but for those that cannot deal with the odor of bleach its a viable alternative just never ever mix it with bleach.
In fact I would not advise anyone mixing anything with bleach without first investigating what it can lead to as some of the things are deadly toxic.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
15. A capful (about a tsp.) of bleach in a galoon of water
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:20 PM
Mar 2020

is what is used in commercial kitchens and restaurants.

I got the last gallon of white vinegar in the store yesterday and I had to crawl in to the back of the lower shelf to get it too.

We have well and septic here so bleach is to be avoided unless used in solution seriously diluted.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
6. I have quite a few bottles of Isopropyl Alcohol
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

because I used it in some homemade products that I make like insect repellent. I suppose if you're desperate, you could try vodka, but that seems like such a waste!

Bleach can be a bit harsh and I get a respiratory reaction to it. It appears you can also use hydrogen peroxide as a disinfectant though.

"Hydrogen peroxide is considered an environmentally safe alternative to chlorine-based bleaches as it breaks down into water and oxygen. Commercially available 3% hydrogen peroxide is considered a stable and effective disinfectant by the CDC when used on inanimate objects."

https://cleaningbusinesstoday.com/blog/hydrogen-peroxide-vinegar-a-disinfecting-duo/

cstanleytech

(26,230 posts)
17. Atleast one of the vodka makers has said that is unlikely to work as the vodka they and most other
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020

makers sale is diluted with a significant amount of water.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
20. Yeah
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

I guess you'll just have to drink it instead! I figured the alcohol content wasn't high enough.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
3. That's what I use
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:12 AM
Mar 2020

I have rarely ever used hand sanitizer, but for people who go out into the real world, it is probably handy to have a small bottle of sanitizer in their purse or pocket. They might not have access to soap and water all time, like while riding in public transportation.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
5. I have just put straight rubbing alcohol into little bottles that were laying around.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:18 AM
Mar 2020

When I was in Portugal last year at an eco resort; at the front of the buffet line before you picked up your plates was were little bottles of alcohol. You just spritz some on your hands and voila!

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
8. You could even dilute it with a little water
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

if the straight alcohol is too harsh on your hands. I like the idea of using little spray bottles and you could add an essential oil to make it smell better.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
11. Oh yes
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:02 PM
Mar 2020

In many respects, soap and water are better, as hand sanitizers make the skin more permeable and thus more susceptible to germs and bacteria and toxins. But when you are out shopping, working, taking public transportation, etc., you can't carry a sink and soap with you. Having a small bottle of hand sanitizer with you would be very helpful. When you are at home, soap and water should be satisfactory, as well as preferable.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
12. Oh yes, I hadn't thought of that
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:04 PM
Mar 2020

and it probably would be a lot less harsh on the skin than alcohol.

Response to PatSeg (Reply #12)

cstanleytech

(26,230 posts)
13. Problem I read with this is if you get the proportion wrong it can cause problems.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

To much alcohol and it can cause your skin to bleed if you use it to much and to little and its not nearly as effective as the real stuff.
Mind you that is not to say it cannot help in a pinch but I would only use it in a real emergency and I would probably use soap and water instead if I have access to it.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
16. It appears that you can use glycerin
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:05 PM
Mar 2020

in the place of alcohol. It is considered an effective disinfectant without being harmful to the skin. Excessive use of alcohol degrades the skin, making it more permeable and thus more susceptible to germs and bacteria and toxins etc. Whereas Vegetable glycerin deprives bacteria and spores of moisture to dehydrate and render them sterile, without negatively affecting your skin.

The reason to look for reasonable alternatives is that so many retailers are sold out on hand sanitizers. Also commercial products have added chemicals that some people might have a reaction to.

Meanwhile, whenever possible soap and water is probably your best bet, but if you have to be out in public, it is good to have something you can carry in your pocket.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
19. You can't use glycerin as a disinfectant for these purposes.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020

You can, however, use it in place of aloe.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
23. It renders alcohol less effective against bacteria.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:24 PM
Mar 2020

Don't make hand sanitzer with glycerin instead of alcohol.
"Glycerol significantly decreases the three hour efficacy of alcohol-based surgical hand rubs."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23433581

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
24. Yes, I had read that
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:48 PM
Mar 2020

I was talking about using glycerin instead of alcohol for people who are sensitive to alcohol-based hand rubs.

Meanwhile, I checked out the ingredients in Purell and other commercial hand sanitizers and they include glycerin. Purell: "Besides ethyl alcohol, it contains water, isopropyl alcohol, glycerin, carbomer, fragrance, aminomethyl propanol, propylene glycol, isopropyl myristate, and tocopheryl acetate." (From Wikipedia)

If glycerin or glycerol makes a hand sanitizer less effective, then maybe the homemade versions with just aloe and alcohol might be more effective than the store bought versions.

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