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"No; they're Dead" (Original Post) magicguido Apr 2020 OP
Rough stuff. Thank you Donald Trump. marble falls Apr 2020 #1
... handmade34 Apr 2020 #2
Oh man. MontanaMama Apr 2020 #3
Tears are welling up in my eyes. FUCK! ffr Apr 2020 #4
And this will be "the new normal" all across the country and the world too Botany Apr 2020 #5
SPEACHLESS Ad Infinitum Apr 2020 #6
Usually the Cult members die. This time it may be us. magicguido Apr 2020 #7
Real heroes democrank Apr 2020 #8
This is so tragic and I am so in awe of these medical professionals who put their smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #9

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
2. ...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 10:46 AM
Apr 2020

just watched this with my partner... he was a medic in Vietnam and worked for a number of years in an ER in RI... he is crying right now... this is real

Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. And this will be "the new normal" all across the country and the world too
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

Donald's made up #s of only 150,000 to 250,000 american dead will become a reality
but only on the way to a much larger figure. Almost all of this was so preventable we
had a epidemiologist in place in China until the summer of 2019 and her job was to be
on the look out for diseases such as C-19 but the CDC under Trump fired her.

We could have already been working on a vaccine, the antibody treatments for the disease*,
producing and stock piling the needed medical equipment, and having the W.H.O.'s C-19 testing
kits in place so we could have tracked the disease before its "breakout."





* Some Hope from Nature: How blood from coronavirus survivors might save lives

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00895-8


New York City researchers hope antibody-rich plasma can keep people out of intensive care.

Hospitals in New York City are gearing up to use the blood of people who have recovered from COVID-19 as a possible antidote for the disease. Researchers hope that the century-old approach of infusing patients with the antibody-laden blood of those who have survived an infection will help the metropolis — now the US epicentre of the outbreak — to avoid the fate of Italy, where intensive-care units (ICUs) are so crowded that doctors have turned away patients who need ventilators to breathe.

The efforts follow studies in China that attempted the measure with plasma — the fraction of blood that contains antibodies, but not red blood cells — from people who had recovered from COVID-19. But these studies have reported only preliminary results so far. The convalescent-plasma approach has also seen modest success during past severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Ebola outbreaks — but US researchers are hoping to increase the value of the treatment by selecting donor blood that is packed with antibodies and giving it to the patients who are most likely to benefit.

A key advantage to convalescent plasma is that it’s available immediately, whereas drugs and vaccines take months or years to develop. Infusing blood in this way seems to be relatively safe, provided that it is screened for viruses and other infectious agents. Scientists who have led the charge to use plasma want to deploy it now as a stopgap measure, to keep serious infections at bay and hospitals afloat as a tsunami of cases comes crashing their way.

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Arturo Casadevall, an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, has been fighting to use blood as a COVID-19 treatment since late January, as the disease spread to other countries and no surefire therapy was in sight. Scientists refer to this measure as ‘passive antibody therapy’ because a person receives external antibodies, rather than generating an immune response themselves, as they would following a vaccination.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. This is so tragic and I am so in awe of these medical professionals who put their
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 09:31 PM
Apr 2020

lives on the line every day to save others. This is why it makes me so damn angry when I see people who don't take this seriously and go about living their lives like there isn't a care in the world. They are putting other people in danger and they are making the lives of these brave medical professionals that much more difficult. They just don't fucking care about anyone but themselves.

I just can't understand why we can't drop everything as a nation and make it a priority to make sure our hospitals and their staff have everything they need to do their jobs and do them safely. If it was a war, you had better believe there would be plenty of money and resources available. This is a massive failure on the part of the government and the person who is at the head of it is primarily responsible.

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