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CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:34 AM May 2020

Dr. John Campbell - Hydroxychloroquine - Myths and legends May 19, 2020

The big myth re: Hydroxychloroquine.

Talks about side effects and when it should and should not be taken; only in a hospital or a clinical setting under medical supervision.



Dr. Campbell knows the reality!

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Dr. John Campbell - Hydroxychloroquine - Myths and legends May 19, 2020 (Original Post) CountAllVotes May 2020 OP
Assuming Trump is lying and not taking Hydroxychloroquine yuiyoshida May 2020 #1
$$$$$$$$ as usual CountAllVotes May 2020 #2
I have Rebl2 May 2020 #3
My late father took this for years too CountAllVotes May 2020 #5
Thanks for posting. I love this guy! Dream Girl May 2020 #4
SIDE EFFECTS -- Very serious in the case of overdose! CountAllVotes May 2020 #6
Post overstates study's '200%' finding on hydroxychloroquine's power vs COVID-19 LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #7
+1 CountAllVotes Jun 2021 #8

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
1. Assuming Trump is lying and not taking Hydroxychloroquine
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:46 AM
May 2020

wtf is his motivation, other than maybe he tested Positive and was freaking out demanding, what he thinks, is the perfect drug?

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
2. $$$$$$$$ as usual
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/us-bought-over-29-million-hydroxychloroquine-doses-from-india-trump/ar-BB12iJh6

A sizeable chunk of the 29 million doses of hydroxychloroquine bought by the US to combat the coronavirus pandemic is from India, President Donald Trump has said as he acknowledged that Prime Minister Narendra Modi was "great" when he sought his help to allow the sale of the anti-malaria drug to treat the growing number of COVID-19 patients in America.

Not even a *hint* *hint* on this one!



Rebl2

(13,481 posts)
3. I have
Tue May 19, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

Last edited Sun May 24, 2020, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)

eye damage from taking it for RA. I developed in 2016 fluid behind my retina. While it has resolved with the use of NSAIDS I still have to take the eye drops. The damage is done and will have to continue the drops from now on. And no I haven’t taken hydroxychloriquin since 2016 and never will again.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
5. My late father took this for years too
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:18 PM
May 2020

He had malaria which he contracted in the tropics during WWII.

It helped for awhile but it stopped helping him so he gave up on it.

It is used for specific conditions today, namely rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and some forms of malaria.

Glad is it helping you and I hope that you don't end up having problems getting it because people believe dump.

Be careful with that macular degeneration btw! My husband is nearly blind from it. He was dx'd with it in 2003 and it had been a difficult thing to manage (shots in the one eye he can still see out of is the treatment which has fortunately been working for him for almost 12 years now).

Take care.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. Thanks for posting. I love this guy!
Tue May 19, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

Check out his videos on YouTube daily. They are excellent and quite informative!

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
6. SIDE EFFECTS -- Very serious in the case of overdose!
Tue May 19, 2020, 02:31 PM
May 2020

Side-effects
Common or very common
Abdominal pain; appetite decreased; diarrhoea; emotional lability; headache; nausea; skin reactions; vision disorders; vomiting

Uncommon
Alopecia; corneal oedema; dizziness; eye disorders; hair colour changes; nervousness; neuromuscular dysfunction; retinopathy; seizure; tinnitus; vertigo

Frequency not known
Acute hepatic failure; agranulocytosis; anaemia; angioedema; bone marrow disorders; bronchospasm; cardiac conduction disorders; cardiomyopathy; hearing loss; hypoglycaemia; leucopenia; movement disorders; muscle weakness; myopathy; photosensitivity reaction; psychosis; reflexes absent; severe cutaneous adverse reactions (SCARs); thrombocytopenia; tremor; ventricular hypertrophy

Overdose
Hydroxychloroquine is very toxic in overdosage; overdosage is extremely hazardous and difficult to treat.

Urgent advice from the National Poisons Information Service is essential. Life-threatening features include arrhythmias (which can have a very rapid onset) and convulsions (which can be intractable)

US Food and Drug Administration, safety alert 24 April

Received reports that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine could have serious side effects and that the drugs should only be taken under the close supervision of a doctor in a hospital setting or a clinical trial.


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What a freakin' idiot dump is!




LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
7. Post overstates study's '200%' finding on hydroxychloroquine's power vs COVID-19
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:15 AM
Jun 2021

I saw this bullshit study being cited by some low IQ TFG supporters and knew that it was bogus. This study is so bad and poorly done that only a TFG supporter who is clueless as to science and the scientific process would cite it.



For example, this is not a peer review study but was taken from a site that does not deal in peer review works

The study is posted on a website that publishes “preprints” — studies that “have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.”....

The study was posted May 31 on medRxiv, a website that publishes studies that have not been fully vetted. This note is posted with the study: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice."

he website also says about its "preprint" or "unrefereed" articles: "Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by ‘peer review.’ In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts — called ‘referees’ — who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods and conclusions … Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community."

The analysis concludes that this study is poorly designed and the conclusions are not supported. Politifact interviewed several real scientists who concluded that this study is flawed and should not be relied on (even by low IQ TFG supporters).

Here is the conclusion about this study
Our ruling
A widely shared social media post stated: "Study: hydroxychloroquine can boost COVID-19 survival chances by nearly 200%."

A study says a certain dosing of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin "improves survival by nearly 200%" among hospitalized COVID-19 patients who received invasive mechanical ventilation, but the post exaggerates the finding’s significance.

The study is posted on a website that publishes studies that "have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community." Experts told PolitiFact the study is poorly designed and that no conclusion about cause and effect should be drawn from it.

For a statement that contains only an element of truth, our rating is Mostly False.

I am amused that the RWNJ believe that this study is meaningful.
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