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Related: About this forumBlack voter asks Trump when was the last time America was great - this one is important, imho.
I really hope the Biden campaign sees this. This pastor speaks very clearly about what he needs to hear from them.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)An idyllic christofascist society that never fn existed in the first place. Denial of the historical reality of real world society even in the "good old days". A delusion of the magical thinker when God had not been forced from schools, gays and brown folks knew their place, (gag, gag) etc.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Captain Zero
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ScratchCat
(1,980 posts)We all knew "Make America Great Again" was a not-so thinly veiled dog whistle reference to 2008 when Obama became President. Everyone knew that Jan 21, 2009 is when Trump and his ilk believe America "stopped being great" because a black democrat became POTUS.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)They allow you to vote your conscience, say for the Green Party, as your first choice and the Democratic party as your second.
It's much more democratic that the system we have now where you can have a "winner" who got 44% of the vote and the majority of the country doesn't want him.
Unfortunately, it sounds like this man is going to waste a vote on a party that can't win, helping Trump in PA.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)But what I hear him asking for is some outreach from the Biden campaign - and rightly so.
Latinx voters are also feeling a lack of outreach from the Biden campaign.
I think the campaign so far has been mainly focused on the White middle class - which is fine - but I think there need to be some messages more specifically targeted toward Black communities (what the pastor refers to as "ghettos" ), about their specific problems in housing, healthcare, education, employment, etc. Focus on their day-to-day struggles with inequality, not just run-ins with the police.
BumRushDaShow
(128,768 posts)I have all but stopped watching TV in many months but listen to Philly's local news radio daily (mostly morning and evening) and that black outreach started in earnest here in Philly on Monday. Literally multiple times a day and during peak times, at least once an hour.
The audio of this ad (which I expect has been running on the local TV stations here) was a radio ad -
and the audio of a different ad (a voiceover of a black male discussing the coronovirus impact on the black community interspersed with the Woodward clips of Drumpf downplaying/lying about the pandemic) has also aired here.
There is an ad that is a TV ad apparently playing on the other side of the state in Pittsburgh -
So a huge ad buy was made. And oddly enough, for the past few weeks, I have even seen Biden "ads" as popups at the bottom of youtube videos.
I saw last evening that Kamala is expected to be here today (Thursday) in Philly and Biden is holding his CNN Town Hall up in Scranton this evening as well.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I do hope Biden and/or Harris also make some national speeches targeted to Blacks and Latinx.
BumRushDaShow
(128,768 posts)in swing state markets and they are targeting various communities including Latinx. They have $365 million just from the August fund-raising haul alone to spend. Game on.
You can see many of them on Biden's youtube channel (these are not just "internet ads", a bunch are actually running or have run on TV and radio) - https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeBiden/featured
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,768 posts)modrepub
(3,493 posts)If I understand the process correctly, if no candidate gets 50% then the candidate with he lowest number of votes reveals their next choice, which are added to the tallies. If a candidate reaches 50% then the race is officially over and if not you move to the next lowest candidates choices and so forth until a winner is decided.
Under this structure, if I have it right, the lowest vote getting candidates could create a winner, but not anyone else (who got fewer votes than the majors). So if you voted for the Libertarian candidate, who usually outpoll the Greens, you don't get counted. (I honestly don't know what happens to the people who write in "Mickey Mouse, Elvis or their own names; do they get counted first?).
I've heard a lot of folks in PA complain that the Green Party cost Hillary PA in 2016 totally ignoring the impact of the Libertarian folks, who almost always out poll all the other 3rd party candidates. I'll also add Libertarian candidates almost always pull away Republican type voters much more than Democratic type voters. Most of the counties that went Republican in 2016 had higher percentages in the Libertarian column than Democratic counties in Pennsylvania.
While we can complain about Green's siphoning otherwise Democratic votes, in Pennsylvania this impact is usually more than off-set by Libertarian candidates siphoning off Republican votes. I suspect a fair number of Republicans in this state who despise Trump (and there are a few) won't be pulling Biden's lever but will either leave their presidential vote unchecked or vote for Jorgensen (Libertarian) in November.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)In many cases, the Republicans aren't extreme enough on economic issues for libertarians.
Take the following scenario in a purple state leaning blue:
Democrat: 42%
Republican:43%
Green: 9% - 9 %Second Choice Democrat
Libertarian 6% - 6% Repub
Currently, the Republican wins.
With Ranked choice, the libertarian vote goes to the republican, but only gets him to 49%, so the Green comes into play. The Green + Democratic vote = 51%, and the Democrat wins the election.
It won't always play out this way, but it sure would have in 2000 when Nader gave the election to Bush.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)rwsanders
(2,596 posts)They point to 1964. So everything was peachy before that? Before the civil rights act? In the era of McCarthyism perhaps? Celebrating nuclear proliferation? Segregation? Lynching?
As soon as I hear that I'm ready for the door.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)Taking prayer out of the schools was one change that happened in the 60's, but it wasn't the only one. there was the civil rights movement and the anti war movement. There was a revolution in attitudes towards sex.
Before the 60's, the country sucked for people of color.
It sucked for gay people, they were like 95% in the closet and the other 5% risked their lives walking down the street.
In fact, it pretty much sucked for everybody except rich people and rednecks.
The people pointing to prayer in schools are usually part of the conservative, mostly white backlash against equal rights and the other changes that opened up America.
JI7
(89,244 posts)talking about bs like lesser of two evils and repeating the same stupid lines from the same usual types that vote for Grifting Trolls like Jill Stein.