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Illumination

(2,458 posts)
2. Agree!...Until the Trump Administration, the pandemic, etc. came along, thought of the world
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

as being relatively normal. NOW...after all this, I see how selfish, ignorant, yes,,,absolutely STUPID & dangerous app. 1/2 of the population is!..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
4. Most humans have no choice in the systems they're born into. Systems that condition them.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 10:43 AM
Nov 2020

Choices can be regarded as predetermined, and not free will: those choices always result from dispositions or necessities that precede them. What we should really be noticing and actually studying is whether our choices are determined and who/what determines them.

Curiosity and learning are innate in humans. Stupidity is conditioned.

We can see how corporations were built to last beyond generation after generation of humans.

Corporations need human labor to produce wealth, right? So enslave them for a few centuries.

Corporations need intelligent management after WWII, right? So offer them the GI Bill and make college affordable for all.

Corporations need pliant workers, right? So jack up college prices so they can't choose it.

Corporations need to control populations? So crank up male dominant religions.

Corporations need to dominate government? So crank up population divisions about the stupid, the inferior, the environment. Blame those set up to fail as losers, inferiors.

Just don't let the winners see who runs them through the disunities of privilege.

If we fall for the idea that half the population is stupid by choice, we forget who conditioned us to think that way, too.


rwsanders

(2,594 posts)
8. Corporations the root of all evil.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:32 AM
Nov 2020

This is the best summary I've found of how perverted the current social role of the corporation really is:
https://vault.sierraclub.org/sierra/200509/corporation.asp

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
9. Absolutely.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:53 PM
Nov 2020

Thank you. It's a great history. The last line,

People can only begin to regain control over their communities by confronting corporations' "illegitimate claims to constitutional rights, powers, and authorities."
says what I've always said, that corporations, as fictional personhoods, must not have equal standing in courts or equal protection under the Constitution, which was written for humans. Of, by and for the People means that corporations are NOT people, my friend. And their money is not speech.

rwsanders

(2,594 posts)
10. I personally am going to mark those decisions under and due to Scalia the point where we turned to
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 12:26 AM
Dec 2020

Fascism.
I'm waiting to see if we can pull back from it peacefully.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
11. Citizens United was a big turn for elections. As for the rest, I'm not sure SCOTUS
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 10:40 AM
Dec 2020

has been anything but gradualist. Still, the cumulative effect of their rulings is capture of government by influence of The Chamber of Commerce. To me, "Chamber" has always been a tell, connoting unaccountable secrecy by deciders of value, target markets, who/what gets commodified, and how educated they want the populace to be.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2018/08/empirical-scotus-the-big-business-court/

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
7. BigBearJohn...
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 12:31 PM
Nov 2020

If the country could incorporate Critical Thinking and Political Science classes into school curriculums maybe that'd be a start.

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