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magicguido

(6,315 posts)
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:39 AM Apr 2021

Cops still can't keep from killing people who are doing nobody any harm



if you kill them; you’re not doing it right.



SAN FRANCISCO — Police in the Northern California city of Alameda released body camera video late Tuesday that shows officers pinning a man facedown to the ground for more than five minutes during an arrest last week that ended in his death.

Mario Gonzalez, 26, died April 19, one day before Derek Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, was convicted of murdering George Floyd by holding him to the pavement with his knee for 9 minutes, 29 seconds as Floyd said repeatedly that he couldn't breathe.

A police report said "a physical altercation ensued" when officers tried to detain Gonzalez at a park in Alameda and that at that time, "the man had a medical emergency." The report said Gonzalez later died at a hospital.

His family contends he was killed by police who used excessive force.

"The police killed my brother in the same manner that they killed George Floyd," Gerardo Gonzalez said at a news conference Tuesday outside the Alameda Police Department.

He said his brother was not posing a threat when he died.

"Alameda police officers murdered my brother Mario," he said

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-video-shows-california-man-died-after-police-held-him-n1265584
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Cops still can't keep from killing people who are doing nobody any harm (Original Post) magicguido Apr 2021 OP
So the reason to detain him was he appeared to have kacekwl Apr 2021 #1
Police said "Just checking on you. Somebody called and said maybe you weren't feeling great..." FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #3
To protect and serve, or to beat up and kill? IronLionZion Apr 2021 #6
The cops were probably hoping for an easy... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #7
What was the threat? Ohioboy Apr 2021 #2
"Just coming to check on you, make sure you're ok." - He ends up dead as a result. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #4
How do these cops sleep at night... Hulk Apr 2021 #5
They sleep like babies. Iggo Apr 2021 #9
Good point.... Hulk Apr 2021 #10
When fighting to stay alive, EnterwebsJohn Apr 2021 #8

kacekwl

(7,013 posts)
1. So the reason to detain him was he appeared to have
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:00 PM
Apr 2021

too much to drink ? This is what needs to change. Take that 11 minutes you spent talking to him should have been spent calling someone who is trained to help in these instances. Not apply force and pain.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
6. To protect and serve, or to beat up and kill?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:10 PM
Apr 2021

A wellness check shouldn't involve kneeling on them for 9.5 minutes so they can't breathe.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
7. The cops were probably hoping for an easy...
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
Apr 2021

... public intoxication arrest and conviction.

Public intoxication is illegal in California, like many places.
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/647f/

I personally think it's ridiculous if the person is minding his/her own business.

It's a conviction that can cause immigrants to be deported too, according to the above website, so maybe that was their angle if they didn't already know his citizenship status?

Ugh.

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
2. What was the threat?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:16 PM
Apr 2021

People who pose no actual threat to law enforcement should not die. Something is wrong, whether it training or whatever, a solution should not be that hard to find.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
5. How do these cops sleep at night...
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:59 PM
Apr 2021

This is so wrong. He died...why? He had “too much to drink”? WTF is wrong with these dumb ass cops. Do they even comprehend how their actions are so out of line with decent behavior?

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
9. They sleep like babies.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:55 PM
Apr 2021

They enjoy fucking up people’s lives, even to the point of killing them.

They. Love. It.

And that’s why we don’t need better training for the cops that we have. What we need is better cops.

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