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(21,620 posts)Just as Bush was - on account of those invasions.
Initech
(100,057 posts)If they have MAGA, Trump, or what I like to call "America porn" imagery (guns, bald eagles, flags, torn flags, ripped up constitution, etc) all over their clothing / houses / vehicles, you can almost instantly tell they're going to be toxic.
peppertree
(21,620 posts)It's amazing what you can hoodwink certain people into doing for you.
Initech
(100,057 posts)"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.".
So true then and now!
peppertree
(21,620 posts)How we could use ol' George in these times.
magicarpet
(14,144 posts)KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)is how reQublicans will respond and encourage people to get news & information from Qa-nonsense.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)By what are they measuring "strength"? If strength means having a complete lack of compassion and honesty, then Trump wins, hands down. If being unable to listen to others, and then adjusting your decisions on factual data, is strength, then Trump wins, hands down.
If strength means having the will to do the right thing, even in the face of insurmountable odds, Trump gets his ass kicked three ways to Sunday.
So the "strength" question is dubious, at best.
PatSeg
(47,360 posts)though that figure was from 2017, before the world saw what a total disaster he was.
Edit to add that in 2017, 72% of those polled also thought Trump was dangerous. Rather peculiar - some people equate danger with strength?
peppertree
(21,620 posts)Sadly, it's not uncommon in 3rd world countries - that have only been democracies since the 1980s or so - to find (some) people who miss the earlier dictatorship.
And when you dig a little deeper, the reason is almost always the same: "General So-and-So wasn't a afraid to break a few skulls."
What they miss that the former dictator wasn't shy about hurting people they hate.
These same types saw the same qualities in Trump.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)Many countries in the world are neophytes when it comes to this "democracy" thing.
peppertree
(21,620 posts)Right-wing authoritarians can be very appealing to people in countries where crime rates are high - despite that fact that right-wing regimes don't bring crime rates down either.
But they are good at making voters (especially in the middle class) feel that "something is being done" about crime - i.e. that heads are getting bashed in.
When people are mugged (or worse), most just want revenge. Right-wing demagogues thrive on that.
PatSeg
(47,360 posts)still have people who are drawn to authoritarian leaders, in spite of relatively recent history warning of the dangers that come with such leaders.
peppertree
(21,620 posts)You might recall the old joke in New York in the '70s and '80s that asked: "What's the difference between a conservative and a liberal?"
"A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged at least twice."
Right-wingers don't do anything about crime, really - but they know how to thrive on it.
PatSeg
(47,360 posts)I've known people like that. Being a liberal was very cool until they became comfortable home owners and didn't want the unwashed masses living in their neighborhood. Then it was, "Why can't they pull themselves up like I did? I never needed any government handouts." It was easier to be compassionate when the "poor and needy" were way over there someplace, not in our backyard.
Conservatism is largely based on fear, insecurity, and greed.
peppertree
(21,620 posts)Such is the world.
PatSeg
(47,360 posts)Though of course, that still is very disturbing. We've seen it throughout history, yet some people are still drawn to the "strongman" tyrants.
peppertree
(21,620 posts)Right-wing "kill'em-all" talk sounds good to many voters (especially in crime-ridden countries) - until the leaders get out of control and begin going after anyone and everyone.
A little like a snake eating its own tail.
PatSeg
(47,360 posts)would be more likely to see the danger signs that indicate they might be next.
bucolic_frolic
(43,116 posts)When you rely on expertise and good ideas, you have something to go on.
Ignorance, stupidity, bluster, corruption, deplorables .... not so much.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,063 posts)Initech
(100,057 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,815 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,107 posts)Hard to believe they asked if POTUS arrogant.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,623 posts)It just seems like there are so many Trumpers because they make so much noise.
Someone told me that trump was going to run in 2024. I replied that that's what we want because we know we can beat him. He couldn't even muster more votes than Hillary, and people hate Hillary.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)n/t
Johonny
(20,827 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,835 posts)calimary
(81,189 posts)The numbers dont lie.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)Look at how it happened with BHO following the shrub - quickly and easily. I just knew it would be the same this time.