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Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:03 PM

WIRED: Former Air Force Pilot Breaks Down UFO Footage

The Pentagon's video material recently declassified is analyzed an explained by an expert pilot.

Quite interesting mystery we have...

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:23 PM

1. I see a Pokmon, a Vick's cough drop, a bee, another Pokmon

Interesting to look at

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:53 PM

2. Aw, Jeez...


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Response to PSPS (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 01:05 PM

4. +1

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:55 PM

3. Of course it's unidentified if you fail to Focus the damn camera.

the rest are Ducks. Quack Quack.

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 01:42 PM

5. Could these be atmospheric light shows?

Holograms or something like that? Projections of some sort like film projectors? You could see something that's made up of just light that could look solid, and it could be made to do things that solid matter could not.

-- Ron

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Response to Jeebo (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:04 PM

11. yep; it's called reflecting a bright light off a cloud.

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 02:28 PM

6. Frankly, all this is about as surprising as their seemingly not wanting to talk to us

i.e. Not at all.

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 02:54 PM

7. So apparently

we spend billions of dollars on military aircraft that are equipped with black and white video cameras from the 1940s.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 03:38 PM

8. One is night vision

The other is infra red, so yes we paid for the tech that was able to capture these images.. the pilot explained this in their presentation.

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Response to Pluvious (Original post)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 04:38 PM

9. It always surprises me how many here will post comments without watching the video or reading

the article, if thatís the medium. Apparently posters here think this Air Force pilot is either a goofball, or part of a disinformation campaign. One person thinks ducks can fly 600 mph, or even Mach 60. Itís fine to be skeptical ó I am ó but skepticism should include taking in the information and keeping an open mind. What I see here isnít skepticism, itís just posturing.

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Response to Gaugamela (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:59 PM

10. UAPs and magnetic vaccines

Humans make assumptions, it's in our nature. They are frequently wrong.
Here, it is assumed that the UAP is a material thing, that is, made out of matter, like metal. But it may be a kind of ball-lightning, made of plasma, or an optical phenomenon like the aurora, where the light emission arises from ionized air molecules or atoms. Or atmospheric effects, vortices spun off from a tornado, weird cloud effects. Few know about the Green Flash. Reflections are everywhere. Muons and other cosmic rays are all over the place.

Plunging into the sea (?) and never coming back up again is what the sun does every sunset over the Pacific.

Speed is often an illusion. Everyone knows that "nothing" can move faster than the speed of light, c. However, the point of intersection between the blades of a very long scissors will move faster than c as the scissors close!

Why the sky is blue and why there are rainbows were once UAPs.

I recall visiting the Johnson Space Flight Center and a very nice docent was taking a group of tourists around. A woman asked, "well, did we find any new metals on the moon?" I cringed. We know all the metals and elements there are--92 natural ones. They are all listed in the Periodic Table. You can't have element 55Ĺ.
(actually, there are only 91; know which one is excluded?)

I am quite sure that these UFOs did not come a galaxy far, far away commanded by blue-green algae with a yen for voyeurism. For one thing, I am reliably informed that the budget for such adventures in Alpha Centauri has been slashed following the explosion of their 4th moon. Their research has been refocused on why forks and keys do not stick on their foreheads, if any.

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Response to kiri (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 10, 2021, 09:51 PM

12. I don't know what it is or is not. Nor am I saying it's necessarily material in nature, although

it bounces radar. (I tend to hold with philosophical idealism that materialism is an illusion. ďIt from bit,Ē as John Wheeler put it.) Everyone knows that relativity and quantum physics have yet to be unified and that science is provisional. Multiple Air Force pilots and astronauts have reported these things and they are often seen by independent witnesses and corroborated by radar. Itís the instruments that track their speed. One Air Force pilot on 60 Minutes related that he witnessed these things every day for two years.

Anyway, my main point was that people here respond to a post title without watching or reading the content. Sometimes they donít even read the post. So whatís your opinion of what this pilot has to say? Is she a goofball? (Is Harry Reid? How about Gordon Cooper?) Guess youíll have to watch it.

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Response to Gaugamela (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:02 PM

15. UFOs debunked

There is a very good explanation of these films here:


Radar reflections can come from plasmas (lightning), or even just turbulent air (Clear Air Turbulence--CAT), and rain clouds (which are a bit material). A pilot who continues to see things alone is having hallucinations.

There are thousands of strange beliefs in psychics, leprechauns, faeries, ghosts, gods, supernatural this and that, copper bracelets, a flat earth, bigfoot, images of Jesus on toast, and on and on. The fact that millions of people believe these things does not mean that they actually exist. Many are mutually contradictory.

I watched the video on several channels. Please watch this one that debunks them. Artifacts, artifacts!

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Response to Gaugamela (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:24 PM

16. Healing illness via material help is better than prayer

My view is that "materialism is an illusion" is a meaningless nonsense. Bodies, automobiles, planets, stars are made of atoms, materials. It is just 10-year old's, ethereal solipsism. It goes with spirits, souls, and similar unmeasurable, unrepeatable anecdotes.

In any case, it is for sure that we all live out our lives as if materials exist. Anything more comes under the heading of "angels (non-material) dancing on the head of a pin (material)".
The great question is, which sex are angels?

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Response to kiri (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 12, 2021, 05:04 PM

17. Not solipsism. There's a difference between materialism and the external world.

"Reality is merely an illusion, although a very persistent one." ó Albert Einstein

"It from bit symbolizes the idea that every item of the physical world has at bottom ó at a very deep bottom, in most instances ó an immaterial source and explanation . . . in short, that all things physical are information-theoretic in origin and that this is a participatory universe." óJohn Wheeler

"In the philosophy of mind, panpsychism is the view that mind or a mind-like aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality. It is also described as a theory that "the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe." It is one of the oldest philosophical theories, and has been ascribed to philosophers including Thales, Plato, Spinoza, Leibniz, William James, Alfred North Whitehead, Bertrand Russell, and Galen Strawson. In the 19th century, panpsychism was the default philosophy of mind in Western thought, but it saw a decline in the mid-20th century with the rise of logical positivism. Recent interest in the hard problem of consciousness has revived interest in panpsychism." ó Wikipedia entry on Panpsychism


The main thrust of my comments here has been that no one bothered to watch the video. The video shows a competent, qualified person explaining what the instrumentation is and what it indicates. If any of the commenters above had bothered to watch a 4 minute video they would have realized how ridiculous their suggestions were. Instead they simply parroted the social programming and unexamined assumptions of popular consensus.

So tell me again just who is indulging in solipsism.

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Response to Gaugamela (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:51 AM

13. +100

Thank you.

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