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Rhiannon12866

(204,630 posts)
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:30 AM Jun 2021

NYT: Trump DOJ Seized Apple Data From Top Dems, Their Family Members - All In - MSNBC



The New York Times reports that the Department of Justice under Trump subpoenaed Apple for data from the accounts of at least two Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, aides and family members. Aired on 06/10/2021.


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NYT: Trump DOJ Seized Apple Data From Top Dems, Their Family Members - All In - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 OP
Unbelievable...or rather, Believable. Of course there will be no OnDoutside Jun 2021 #1
There has to be consequences Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #2
+1000000000 MerryHolidays Jun 2021 #3
There should be consequences but we're not seeing it. I saw Adam OnDoutside Jun 2021 #7
MF45 is gone but, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #4
The repeat of Chris Hayes is on again now and so I'm reliving these abuses Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #5
Him and that freaking fist... sprinkleeninow Jun 2021 #6
Worse than Nixon. And the Orange Degenerate is still on the golf course and not in JAIL. magicguido Jun 2021 #8
Smaller government? world wide wally Jun 2021 #9
You Can't Legally Impanel A Grand Jury DallasNE Jun 2021 #10
I agree. I'm shocked that Apple allowed this, didn't seem to fight this, to some, SWBTATTReg Jun 2021 #13
Lay odds they had done it to Republicans before the 2016 convention LiberalArkie Jun 2021 #11
Time is not on Trump's side...Atty General of New York, Letitia James."has time on her side..." Stuart G Jun 2021 #12

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
1. Unbelievable...or rather, Believable. Of course there will be no
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:43 AM
Jun 2021

consequences for this, there never seems to be.

Rhiannon12866

(204,630 posts)
2. There has to be consequences
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:49 AM
Jun 2021

Not only because he's still at it - holding "rallies" for an imagined "campaign" and undermining the current administration - but so it is never allowed to happen again.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
7. There should be consequences but we're not seeing it. I saw Adam
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 04:29 AM
Jun 2021

being interviewed by Rachel and he said Benvenuti (sp?), brought in by Barr to do this, is STILL at the DOJ !!! And was still doing up to recently. Bizarre.

gab13by13

(21,234 posts)
4. MF45 is gone but,
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 03:12 AM
Jun 2021

he has goons all over government. The Justice department needs cleaned out. Not to mention the over 320 Nazi judges McConnell helped him confirm. It is going to take a long time to undo what MF45 left us. His goon is still head of the post office, surely there is some way to get rid of him?

Rhiannon12866

(204,630 posts)
5. The repeat of Chris Hayes is on again now and so I'm reliving these abuses
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 03:31 AM
Jun 2021

And these are only the ones we know about now, I'm certainly willing to bet that there's a lot more to come. You're absolutely right, they talked about this earlier this week when Biden's first pick for federal judge was finally confirmed - one who had originally been nominated by Obama(!), but as you said, McConnell made sure that none of those picks got through - while racing to confirm the former guy's picks in record numbers! Like he knew anything about judges?? You are right, there is a massive job of cleaning up and cleaning out still to do...


First Biden Judge Confirmed; Democrats Slow To Balance Trump Judge Glut - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow tells the history of the judicial nomination of Julien Xavier Neals by President Obama, whose nominees were virtually stalled by Republicans toward the end of his term, and now again by President Biden, who has a long road ahead if he hopes to balance the flood of judges Republicans installed under Donald Trump. Aired n 06/08/2021.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
10. You Can't Legally Impanel A Grand Jury
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jun 2021

To go on a fishing expedition. There has to be an expectation that a crime has been committed. Same with the Grand Jury issuing a subpoena. This is a clear abuse of the use of a Grand Jury and well beyond the abuse during Watergate. Apple probably should have been a lot more skeptical of a subpoena for data on elected Congressmen of the opposition party. Indeed, it looks like the sole purpose of this Grand Jury was to spy on a political opponent. Barr should end up in jail, along with other in DOJ.

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
13. I agree. I'm shocked that Apple allowed this, didn't seem to fight this, to some,
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jun 2021

possibly illegal subpoenas. As a matter of fact, I'm kind of pissed that one of the world's premier companies facilitated this, and should have fought this more.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
11. Lay odds they had done it to Republicans before the 2016 convention
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jun 2021

To assure that Trump Inc could blackmail every Republican in office. The reason they all shifted their viewpoints so quick.

They much have a lot on Manchin

Stuart G

(38,404 posts)
12. Time is not on Trump's side...Atty General of New York, Letitia James."has time on her side..."
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jun 2021

...Do you think that Trump has broken state law?...If you do, then Letitia James will get him...
Yes, my guess is that Trump broke state laws, and he did so with his usual arrogance, and sure that
he would not be caught..

...Well, if he broke state laws, he will be caught.....Yes, it will take time...but he will be convicted,

I do not know if Trump will go to jail, but he will contest this, and it will go on and on and on some more...
And on forever..but the conviction will, in my opinion stand.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump has moved to Russia by then, or died.??

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