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Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:02 AM Jul 2021

Doctor: If You're Not Vaccinated, Getting Covid Is Inevitable - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



As Nevada deals with a rise in Covid cases almost entirely among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Luis Medina-Garcia says for those who have not had the vaccine, it's not a matter of if but when they will contract the virus. Aired on 07/28/2021.


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Doctor: If You're Not Vaccinated, Getting Covid Is Inevitable - The 11th Hour - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 OP
Many millions are unvaccinated, but have already had the disease ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #1
For one thing they are possibly a target rich environment to breed more variants CentralMass Jul 2021 #4
over and over again lapfog_1 Jul 2021 #9
Might not help as much against newer variants IronLionZion Jul 2021 #11
No it isn't. Perhaps "highly likely". n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2021 #2
If that's true it's a stunning reality. I imagine it's a bit hyperbolic captain queeg Jul 2021 #3
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #5
i think Borowitz got it right Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #6
I love Borowitz LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #7
Me, too! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #8
I hope it dramatically thins the ranks of the insanely right wing. Kablooie Jul 2021 #10
We will ALL get at least one version of Covid-19 Grolph_ Jul 2021 #12

lapfog_1

(29,198 posts)
9. over and over again
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:10 AM
Jul 2021

this virus is unpredictable.

Having the virus apparently imparts some immunity, but each variant is almost like a new virus... the spike protein has changed, the rate of replication (overwhelming the immune response) has increased dramatically, viral loads in the nose and upper respiratory system have increased with Delta by over 1000 times... that isn't a typo... 1000 times.

The issue is... the longer the virus is presented with new hosts to infect... it will mutate and some mutations will emerge that bypass our immune system (either developed as a result of previous infection... or even from vaccines).

IronLionZion

(45,409 posts)
11. Might not help as much against newer variants
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 10:03 AM
Jul 2021

And they could have permanent organ damage making them more vulnerable if they get infected again. Vaccines are better than natural immunity but many have chosen to do it the hard way

captain queeg

(10,137 posts)
3. If that's true it's a stunning reality. I imagine it's a bit hyperbolic
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:13 AM
Jul 2021

Haven’t the RW ever seen War of the Worlds? Guns can’t protect you from some things.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
6. i think Borowitz got it right
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:48 AM
Jul 2021

If only Joe Biden tried to prevent them from getting the vaccine, they'd be lined up around the block.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
8. Me, too!
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:21 AM
Jul 2021

And thanks! He is so close to the truth that it's no wonder that not everyone - even here - knows it's satire.

Kablooie

(18,623 posts)
10. I hope it dramatically thins the ranks of the insanely right wing.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:18 AM
Jul 2021

The fewer the country has of them the better for the rest of us and the future of the world.

Grolph_

(50 posts)
12. We will ALL get at least one version of Covid-19
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 10:27 PM
Jul 2021

Being vaccinated means you will probably survive.

If they recommend a booster, get it, you will probably survive.

Last time I had the data at my fingertips; being unvaccinated is 186 times more dangerous than being vaccinated. Anecdotal evidence indicates the ratio is higher now.

Yes, SOME fully vaccinated people have lost their lives to Covid. MANY MANY unvaccinated people are on their way to dead right now. Unfortunately our current variant is devastating a population that probably had no control over their exposure risk and could not yet be vaccinated, those under 12. If you refuse to get vaccinated and you have kids at risk, you suck.

Saying that everyone will at some time will be infected is not hyperbolic, it is the math of a pandemic. The whole point of getting vaccinated is to teach your body how to fight the virus. The whole point of isolation before the vaccines were available was to be alive long enough to get vaccinated.

We have no idea what the first of the "common colds" did to humanity. We are now in a genome changing event. Some day we will be able to look back and identify the markers that would have identified the highly vulnerable.

Get VACCINATED, LIVE!

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