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'We are failing' to contain delta variant surge: NIH director - ABC News (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 OP
No. THEY are failing. The antivaxxers. This is not a WE situation. WE are vaccinated Murphyb849 Aug 2021 #1
actually, it is still an EVERYONE problem IMO FirstLight Aug 2021 #2
Good point and I agree. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #4
I'm glad President Biden is hammering the Red State Assassin Govs. Nt Baked Potato Aug 2021 #3
President Biden has done an amazing job in less than 6 months Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #5
They are killing the children and they don't care! sheshe2 Aug 2021 #6
How can these idiots ignore what's going on right in their communities?? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #7
To stupid or just don't care. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #8
I saw that, too. How can they possibly deny the catastrophic spread that happened last year?? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #10
One woman interviewed... sheshe2 Aug 2021 #13
Just got a phone call last night from my Dad's cousin Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #14
I am so sorry, Rhi. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #15
This was the first person I've known and I'm so sad, but it also makes me angry Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #17
Yikes! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #16
Ain't that the truth. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #19
Bastards MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #9
But not voters... sheshe2 Aug 2021 #11
It makes me angry too MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #12
+1,000! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #18
This variant spreads so aggressively that containment was never possible Warpy Aug 2021 #20
And those who choose not to get vaccinated are making more transmissible variants possible Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #22
I'm afraid they'll make it more lehal Warpy Aug 2021 #23
And seat belts. The comparison has been made to the advent of seat belts Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #24
Oh, did they ever yowl about those! Warpy Aug 2021 #25
Extermination, by GOP/Trump Plague appalachiablue Aug 2021 #21

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
2. actually, it is still an EVERYONE problem IMO
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:50 PM
Aug 2021

Im Vaxxed but I am masking and disinfecting as I did last year, these variants dont give a shit about vaccinations...they are breaking thru left & right

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
4. Good point and I agree.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:54 PM
Aug 2021

I think he's referring to the NIH which the anti-vaxxers aren't listening to - they prefer the "expertise" of whatever internet trolls which continue to repeat TFG's outdated "hoax" theory or recommend horse medicine instead of drinking bleach this time.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
5. President Biden has done an amazing job in less than 6 months
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:00 PM
Aug 2021

Making up for the lost time squandered over the previous year when nothing was done except for espousing crackpot theories and dangerous recommendations which led to the nationwide crisis we're experiencing today.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
6. They are killing the children and they don't care!
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:00 PM
Aug 2021

Even if they survive no one knows the long term side effects.

LA saw 3400 cases in FOUR DAYS. The average age is 5 years old.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
8. To stupid or just don't care.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:06 PM
Aug 2021

We are truly fucked.

Don't forget Sturgis, 700K all in one place. I saw some of the interviews. No words.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
10. I saw that, too. How can they possibly deny the catastrophic spread that happened last year??
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:14 PM
Aug 2021

And now we have the more transmissible variant! How is this allowed to go on?! A few months back I was in the grocery store and I noticed the guy pushing a cart ahead of me was wearing a Sturgis shirt! Yikes! I turned around and put half the store between us!

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
13. One woman interviewed...
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

Not really paying close attention to the question. She pointed back and said that person has COVID. I don't care, I already had it.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
14. Just got a phone call last night from my Dad's cousin
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:29 PM
Aug 2021

Her sister died of Covid on Friday. That side of my family are all lifelong Democrats and were all vaccinated, but she just turned 88 and had some other health issues. This is the first person I've known and this makes it personal.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
15. I am so sorry, Rhi.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:34 PM
Aug 2021

My niece is on the front lines, but I have lost no one.

Things are getting worse.

Hugs and sorry for your loss.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
17. This was the first person I've known and I'm so sad, but it also makes me angry
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:45 PM
Aug 2021

She did all the right things to take care of herself. She had 4 kids, was especially proud of the eldest (Mary Ann!) who is a graduate of West Point! And she was the family historian. I always turned to her with questions. I was hoping that the call was about a family picnic - though I had to know better since we skipped last year and this year is worse. Before that, the last time I saw her was at a ceremony honoring their father (my great uncle) with a posthumous Silver Star for his service in WWI.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
20. This variant spreads so aggressively that containment was never possible
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

I'm afraid we're way beyond trying for containment.

What we can do is vaccinate against it. Yes, there are breakthrough cases, but those cases are generally not the ones showing up at hospitals or dying on ventilators.

We have no hope of containing this bug. We can only mitigate the damage.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
22. And those who choose not to get vaccinated are making more transmissible variants possible
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:12 PM
Aug 2021

And the vaccines that are protecting us now may not protect us from more virulent variants. So it's essential now - though it's criminal that nothing was done over a year ago - that vaccines are now mandated - and that we make the vaccines available to other countries in the world who are desperate for them.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
23. I'm afraid they'll make it more lehal
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:54 PM
Aug 2021

and less susceptible to vaccine antibodies.

It's time to stop pussyfooting around these assholes. Time for a national vaccine program with teeth in it.

Let 'em howl and then be surprised when they don't die, after all.

It's the only way to treat really, really stupid people who are endangering everybody else. It's why we have things like speed limits.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
24. And seat belts. The comparison has been made to the advent of seat belts
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:08 AM
Aug 2021

And how there was a portion of the population who resisted using them initially. However, these days it's easier to avoid an auto accident than for the unvaccinated contracting Covid. The statistics are in and they're terrifying. Despite that we've had the vaccine which can prevent hospitalization and death for over 6 months, there are still idiots out there willing to take chances. And they're the reason it's spreading like wildfire and it's morphing into more transmissible and virulent variants.

I completely agree, we need to mandate vaccinations the same way we mandate seat belts - to keep everyone safe.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
25. Oh, did they ever yowl about those!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:01 AM
Aug 2021

That's why we needed those "buckle up" laws that fined them if they got caught without them.

Some people are determined to be self destructive oafs.

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