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Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:33 AM Oct 2021

Judge Stomps Out Trump Big Lie Case In Georgia And Triggers Trump Tantrum - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow reports on a Georgia judge rejecting a bid by Donald Trump supporters to perform another election "audit" circus and the ensuing press release umbrage and political threats that have come to be expected from a triggered Trump. Aired on 10/13/2021.


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Judge Stomps Out Trump Big Lie Case In Georgia And Triggers Trump Tantrum - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 OP
Pathetic but Dangerous Martin Eden Oct 2021 #1
Most aren't! True Blue American Oct 2021 #3
Who aren't what? Martin Eden Oct 2021 #4
Trump lovers. True Blue American Oct 2021 #5
I hope you're right Martin Eden Oct 2021 #6
Since a team of Republicans True Blue American Oct 2021 #14
Getting better all the time.:) True Blue American Oct 2021 #2
I dont like the judges decision. It wasnt based on evidence. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #7
Good point KS Toronado Oct 2021 #8
Having standing to sue is there for a reason HuskyOffset Oct 2021 #10
Standing certainly has its place; I dont see it here. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #12
"Identified and forthcoming " Fullduplexxx Oct 2021 #9
Isn't there some rule that Delusional Psychotics can't run for the Presidency? magicguido Oct 2021 #11
and llashram Oct 2021 #13

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
1. Pathetic but Dangerous
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:12 AM
Oct 2021

It's pathetic that one of America's two major political parties is in thrall to a malignant narcissist and his Big Lie, setting aside any notion of responsible governance to pursue hopeless efforts to overturn an election he clearly lost.

But it's dangerous because these Republicans hold so much power in state governments, and their ongoing promotion of the Big Lie is being used as justification for voter suppression and making changes to enable overturning the next election.

There is an ongoing assault on our democracy, and the outcome is in doubt.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
4. Who aren't what?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:28 AM
Oct 2021

Are you saying most Republicans aren't in thrall to Donald Trump with his Big Lie, and that R candidates can openly defy him without getting primaried?

I'd like to dismiss them all as pathetic lovers, but they control too many state governments. They are steadily working towards overturning state election results that don't go their way.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. Trump lovers.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:37 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:04 AM - Edit history (1)

That is exactly what I am saying. There are too many Republicans who are against Trump. Voting Democratic until they clean out the crazies. Biden had 7 million more votes in 2020. After the riot how many more do you think will not vote for Trump?

As I said the media is the only thing keeping Trump alive, day after day, 24/7. It is on when I wake up early, still going when I go to bed. Most people have tuned them out.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
6. I hope you're right
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:47 AM
Oct 2021

If so, we will see control of state legislatures and governors turn from red to blue.

But if that doesn't happen, democracy is not out of the woods yet.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
14. Since a team of Republicans
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:10 AM
Oct 2021

Including Christine Todd Whitman

https://en.m.Wikipedia’s.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman
and Miles Taylor

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/anonymous-no-more-former-dhs-official-miles-taylor-reveals-he-n1245157

Are forming an organization to elect Democrats it gets better all the time. all the way down.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
2. Getting better all the time.:)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:16 AM
Oct 2021

Including the lies about Biden poll numbers. Most Americans approve of the bills President Biden is trying to get passed.

Now Trump is telling Republicans not to vote until his lie is proved!

This, along with Republicans who say they will vote Democratic until Republicans get rid of the crazies!

So much good news, how will we survive this? :kgrouphug:

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
7. I dont like the judges decision. It wasnt based on evidence.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:57 AM
Oct 2021

It was based on "standing". I hate decisions based on "standing". I wish he would have let the case go forward and then ruled that all their "evidence" was either fraudulent or bullshit. And then charged them with lying to the court. A ruling on "standing" leaves them with the argument of a "technicality" ruling. Much like a guy caught with drugs gets his case tossed because the search was illegal. Dont give them that
Smack them down based on their lies of evidence.

After watching the above video I realize she never mentions the judges actual ruling. Read the Atlanta Journal for the full story. He did say he didnt see evidence of fraud, but that still wasnt his ruling.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
10. Having standing to sue is there for a reason
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 08:41 AM
Oct 2021

Without requiring standing, you'd have crazy crap like Texas AG being able to sue California because he didn't like the way California's elections turned out. Do you really want that?

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
12. Standing certainly has its place; I dont see it here.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:37 AM
Oct 2021

Why wouldnt ANY voter in GA be considered to have "standing" if they claim the outcome in their state was fraudulent & claimed to have "proof"? A voter could claim their "damages" were that the vote wasnt legit.
The Texas case against GA was one where I could certainly see standing be applicable.
I'm just saying that this decision doesnt say "you're wrong", it says "you cant"; and that gives trumpers the talking point of "dismissed on a technicality even though we had the PROOF!!" BS.
He should have gone on with the case & then found against the plaintiffs when they could not provide proof of their claims. And then charged them court costs.

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