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CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
1. First thing I thought of: where are 13 more cars going to park on that street, which...
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:51 PM
May 2022

appears to be the available parking. I didn't notice any driveways. maybe I missed it.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
3. These homes aren't really consistent with the notion of ADUs
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:03 PM
May 2022

They’re supposed to allow for a caretaker or relative in one unit near the main home. These sound like a sidestep to zoning requirements—putting apartments in single family neighborhoods. I can see why there is controversy.

A speaker in the video brought up your point about parking—also apparently there was no infrastructure such as water and sewer change, either.

mysteryowl

(7,376 posts)
2. It is very hard for the upper-class-living people to share.
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:52 PM
May 2022

Maybe the residents could come up with something more appealing for everyone? Oh, wait, that is how we get "gettos".

brush

(53,764 posts)
7. See post number 4. That was not an upper class area, and the units...
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:11 PM
May 2022

just line the ones in the story are not mother-in-law, single-story small units. They're multi-story monstrosities that often become party-central for college students in a once, single-family home neighborhood.

I don't think people would mind it they were small mother-in-law buildings that fit in with the rest of the area, but huge multiple story buildings completely obliterating backyard privacy, no.

brush

(53,764 posts)
4. This is a horrible situation for those homeowners.
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:04 PM
May 2022

This happened in Tucson, AZ to the neighborhood I grew up in, within walking distance to the Univ. of Az. I've long since moved out of state for my career, It was a long-standing, Black neighborhood of single-family homes built in the '50s and 60s mostly. The original owners, our parents, started passing and if the homes weren't left to a son or daughter to live in, the surviving siblings or relatives began selling the homes, about 10 years ago. Developers swooped in an bought and began throwing up the very same structures as in the OP...multi-story, apartments for student housing.

They totally destroyed what was once a stable neighborhood. Now it's many of these towering monstrosities are built to the very edges of property lines to maximize how many units can be crowded in. It's party central in many of these place, and cars are crowded wherever.

It's horrible for the remaining single-family owners. I see it's happening in other states in neighborhoods close to colleges. Single-story, mother-in-law units that fit in with the character of the neighborhood would work but the builders jam. in as many units in multiple-story, dorm-type buldings.

Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
10. yeah, i feel sorry for the guy in the video with those two story windows over looking his yard
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:43 PM
May 2022

no outside privacy for him but I see he's had big bushes planted.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
5. My area is mixed SFHs and two story apartments
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:06 PM
May 2022

and it's not that tragic.

Yes, things are going to change, that nude sunbathing in the back yard is probably out unless you place the umbrella just right. The city also has to account for increased water, sewer, and trash needs plus parking. The latter is the main problem where I am.

However, housing has to be built and the day of the inefficient SFH is coming to an end, with its attendant sprawl, encroachment on both wildlife and arable land, plus the sheer expense of delivering services like water and sewer to these sprawled out areas. Housing is going to have to go upward to address these problems, making people cliff dwellers who visit a park instead of living in the fiction of a badly maintained one. I've done plenty of that, and it's not tragic, either, not even with kids in tow.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
6. Are these being built on currently vacant lots?
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:09 PM
May 2022

Is this unused land owned by the city? On some of the layouts, it looked like the building included a garage, I wasn't clear if a garage is a standard part of the plan.

It definitely seems like it will increase congestion in some areas; but as population increases, congestion increases.

Just based on the video, I'm not sure exactly what the situation is.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
9. I'm not sure this is the same situation.
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:22 PM
May 2022

These homes are apparently being built on currently unused lots, not replacing existing single-family houses. No one in the video stated that this is going to be aimed at student housing.

It's not clear to me what the situation is in San Diego that these houses are supposed to address. If there is a critical housing shortage in San Diego, this may be a viable solution. It depends on what they are actually trying to accomplish.

brush

(53,764 posts)
11. The developers in Tucson also built on every vacant lot they...
Mon May 2, 2022, 02:16 AM
May 2022

could buy so now there are these grotesque, dorm-like apartment builds on every block, more than on even on some blocks.

My parents' house was a solid, brick house in good shape with a patio in the back with a surrounding fence. But a big monster was built right next to it so my brother sold out to get away. The developers put in new bathrooms and kitchens and rented the house. They also took closed the back door to the patio, dozed it and the fence, and built another monster a foot from the back wall of the house.

Just horrible.

pfitz59

(10,358 posts)
12. NIMBY-ism
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:11 PM
May 2022

"Shame about the homelessness situation, but not on my block..." This is the face of the future. Must build up. Better use of available space.

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