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thomhartmann

(3,979 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:35 PM Jan 2012

Thom Hartmann: We don't need no stinkin' Capitalist gains tax!



Conservative David Selig vs. Thom Hartmann. Right now - the capitalist gains tax is at the lowest it's been since the Great Depression. And as the President pointed out - this low tax rate on capital gains is sucking money out of our nation’s ability to pay for everything from schools to the military to our nation’s infrastructure. So, should we have more capitalist gains tax cuts financed with debt - or should rich people pay their fair share, so we can educate a new generation of scientists, engineers, and doctors?

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Thom Hartmann: We don't need no stinkin' Capitalist gains tax! (Original Post) thomhartmann Jan 2012 OP
Selig was misdirecting his answers. sellitman Jan 2012 #1
David Selig is the PERFECT person to be having on TV for this debate. stillwaiting Jan 2012 #2
This big "seniors will be harmed" bs is what they resort to... glowing Jan 2012 #3

sellitman

(11,605 posts)
1. Selig was misdirecting his answers.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jan 2012

He never directly answered any of your questions. I love watching the Right squirm when you call them out on their phoney love of Ronnie Raygun too. Great job Thom

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
2. David Selig is the PERFECT person to be having on TV for this debate.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

I would be hard pressed to think of another individual that comes across as obnoxious, crass, and just vulgar in their presentation method.

It's like the Anti-Thom.

Right wingers are always so disingenuous when talking about capital gains. David flat out refused to admit that people who make money with their money and don't have wages (i.e. capitalists) paid less taxes (on a percentage basis) than middle-class working Americans. You can't really have a debate with someone when they just won't admit to a fact/reality.

Here's a solution David: Tax ALL capital gains income OVER let's say $500,000 at the same level as ordinary income. This would shield the elderly that are on fixed incomes and are relying on their investment income to survive (which is something I surely would love to see). I'm sure David would be thrilled by this proposition. Especially since David cares so much about the elderly on fixed incomes.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
3. This big "seniors will be harmed" bs is what they resort to...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

The "senior" investor's are such a small % of the market that is actually making large sums of money.. Many times its big firms and hedge funds... And there are ways of writing tax law on investment, as you pointed out, that could insulate the "senior investor" from having to pay a large sum of tax on their investments..

Correct me if I'm wrong, once a Senior get's to the point that they may start tapping into their IRA's or 401k's or even pensions if they still have one, they take a certain amount of money out monthly to live.. They don't take it all at once, which would lower their "income" from the year anyway. It wouldn't make sense to take all the money out once you hit retirement... One would want to keep money invested to keep making money.... Taking it all out and putting it in a savings account would equal very low interest returns.

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