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dcmfox

(209 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:34 PM Jan 2013

Next Generation of Surveillance


Published on Jan 27, 2013

1 million terabytes a day saved forever.

The ARGUS array is made up of several cameras and other types of imaging systems. The output of the imaging system is used to create extremely large, 1.8GP high-resolution mosaic images and video.

The U.S. Army, along with
Boeing, has developed and is preparing to deploy a new unmanned aircraft
called the "Hummingbird." It's is a VTOL-UAS (vertical take-off and
landing unmanned aerial system). Three of them are being deployed to
Afghanistan for a full year to survey and spy on Afghanistan from an
altitude of 20,000 feet with the ability to scan 25 square miles of
ground surface








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zeemike

(18,998 posts)
3. Even George Orwell never foresaw this.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jan 2013

Bog brother can not only watch everything you do, but can record and store it for later use.
Freedom is dead.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
4. I see it almost every day
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jan 2013

Living in a border city, I see shit like this happening all too frequently.

DHS has UAV's, and cameras pointing across the border at Canada.

A couple of years ago, a bunch of cranky, contrary Canadians got together and gave one of the border cameras a good image...they all stood together in a park near the border and mooned the camera. As far as I know the local police declined to prosecute anyone.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
14. When I was assigned to DGS1 10 years at Langley AFB, I had no idea that we'd get to this point today
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:35 AM
Jan 2013

We were just flying Predators over Iraq for Southern Watch and later for the war.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
15. A lot of fighter units have been reassigned with this mission
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:04 AM
Jan 2013

I know of the 174th Fighter Wing, NY ANG, that has been reassigned with the drone mission...they lost their F-16's.

Who knows if they're using them domestically...I don't.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
16. I needed a TS/SCI just to work at that squadron
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:35 AM
Jan 2013

I wonder if they've relaxed the clearance requirements due to the expansion.

There were just three active DGS units back I served. God knows how many there are now and what they're doing.

I'm not very comfortable with domestic Ops.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
18. I'm not comfortable with domestic ops either
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

However, since I was in the ANG (comms puke), with our State role and all, I could have been called up for riot quelling or something like that. Thank God, I never was (governors mostly look to the ARNG for that).

We were much more concerned with NORAD.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
6. The one thing the UAV will never do:
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jan 2013

Read your Mind.

Of course, the solution to that is to kill everyone at your location.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
7. see Nova's "Rise of the Drones" program. very good show on the rapid developement of UAVs
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jan 2013

The engineer who developed the 1.8 Billion pixel camera shows some of it's capabilities - like zooming in on any one of about 64 segments of the entire 1.8 Bil pixel picture. you can distinguish a bird flying around a scene from about 5 to 6 miles away or a person waring their arms around in a parking lot. (Also the computer which is incorporated with the camera identifies and tracks discrete objectts in the field of view!) This camera is small enough to fbe carried by a predator sized drone.


Rise of the Drones

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
9. Maybe there's
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

a way to blind them. Did I just say that? Forgive me big brother! I don't know what came over me. I am a loyal citizen, a loyal citizen! I love surveillance drones, they protect me from bad terrorists. I pledge allegiance...

ronatchig

(575 posts)
17. Invest in a
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jan 2013

umbrella. lol Everyone opposed to govs eye in sky tech. that is . there must be a bunch of low tech ways to waste their money.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
11. Where There's a Will...There's a Way...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:16 AM - Edit history (2)

http://www.bugbrother.com/echelon/spookwordsgenerator.html


Sample:

From: Michael_Miron@ita.doc.gov
To: info@opic.gov
Subj: COBEOWEHHO (CLASSIFIED - Russia)

George J. Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence (CIA), told North Korea Reconnaissance Bureau about Mayotte (Indian Ocean) frenchelon station : a cryptoanarchist sent EloAufkl (german Elektronische Aufklärung)`s web based CGI proxys & Anonymizers logs to Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) a.k.a. Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna !

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---Post it all over the Net. Permanently monkey wrench Echelon altogether. It's the patriotic thing to do.
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Now, if you're REALLY interested in monkey wrenching the Blue Meanies, hack one of their domestic drones (30,000 strong in the near future):

Researchers use spoofing to 'hack' into a flying drone

American researchers took control of a flying drone by "hacking" into its GPS system - acting on a $1,000 (£640) dare from the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

A University of Texas at Austin team used "spoofing" - a technique where the drone mistakes the signal from hackers for the one sent from GPS satellites.

The same method may have been used to bring down a US drone in Iran in 2011.
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Spoofers are a new problem for GPS-guided drones, allowing hackers to trick navigation systems with false information. Humphreys and the team have designed a device costing less than $1,000 that sends out a GPS signal stronger than the ones coming down from orbiting satellites. At first, the rogue signal mimics the official one in order to trick the drone, and once it’s accepted new commands can be sent to the UAV. Naturally, Humphreys highlights the associated risks of such a device, saying that in the wrong hands drones could be turned into missiles. Right now drones can’t be used in US airspace on a wide basis, but Congress has asked the FAA to come up with regulations that would allows drones to fly over the United States by 2015. That could lead to usage in law enforcement, as well as by power companies and delivery firms. The US government says its aware of the potential dangers of spoofing, and officials from the FAA and Department of Homeland Security have seen Humphreys’ demonstration first hand. The Department of Homeland Security reportedly has a program in place to try and solve the problem of GPS interference, but it’s aimed at trying to deal with jammed signals, not spoofed ones.

Reference Links:
http://www.slashgear.com/researchers-find-drones-vulnerable-to-gps-spoofing-29236474
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18643134
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Obsession with National Security (#7 of "The 14 Characteristics of Fascism&quot :

"Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous."
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*Reference Link:
"Fascism Anyone?" by Laurence W. Britt
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=britt_23_2

midnight

(26,624 posts)
12. Use this tech with chips and we could always be in touch with our lost dogs, children, etc.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jan 2013

I see this tech being sold for security.

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