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German Shepherd confused when his human hides. Adorable video: (Original Post) tblue37 Nov 2017 OP
I do this with my dogs all the time. JDC Nov 2017 #1
Exactly.. one can never really hide from a dog's nose. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #2
It's a good way to train them not to wander off jberryhill Nov 2017 #26
So, my first thought is ... left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #3
He should be, but he is obviously very well-trained. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #6
Yeah, I can't bear to see dogs off leash near roads. LisaM Nov 2017 #17
Love dogs but mine is always on leash. He'd be in the next county if he were free. SharonClark Nov 2017 #4
Same here. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #10
With all due respect, then the both of you have a training issue. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2017 #13
Sounds great. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #14
Also, Boston Terrier? GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #15
Yes, and thanks. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2017 #16
Thank you. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #20
That was Mr. Beau Brummel A HERETIC I AM Nov 2017 #22
Hey, it was the seventies. GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #23
Clown fits him well A HERETIC I AM Nov 2017 #24
Pawprints GallopingGhost Nov 2017 #25
Not all breeds are alike. Some are bred to respond to humans, others are procon Nov 2017 #28
I had my service dog trained to work off leash. Doreen Nov 2017 #29
Awww. Poor baby! lunamagica Nov 2017 #5
Used to do that with my dog MiniMe Nov 2017 #7
I trained my shepherd to find the kids, when they were toddlers. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #8
Dog probably thought the guy was raptured - Taken up without him packman Nov 2017 #9
If the dog wasn't raptured along with him Virtual Burlesque Nov 2017 #18
Good point packman Nov 2017 #19
Beautiful dog. Scarsdale Nov 2017 #11
The music makes it More_Cowbell Nov 2017 #12
LOVELY. german shepherds are such wonderful dogs. trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #21
Loved that video True Dough Nov 2017 #27

JDC

(10,125 posts)
1. I do this with my dogs all the time.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:51 AM
Nov 2017

Now they attack me when they find me. Can’t pull the wool over a dog’s nose

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. It's a good way to train them not to wander off
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:55 PM
Nov 2017

On walks in the country/woods, my dog had a habit of wandering off, and I would end up going after her.

Eventually, I realized she'd wander off as long as it was "my job" to find her instead of the other way around.

After a couple of episodes of just turning back and leaving her, she caught on to whose job it is to keep track of whom.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. So, my first thought is ...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:08 PM
Nov 2017

Being a regular viewer of the court/judge TV shows:

Why isn't this dog on a leash?

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
17. Yeah, I can't bear to see dogs off leash near roads.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:03 PM
Nov 2017

It would also bother someone who was afraid of dogs. That is a very good dog, though!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
13. With all due respect, then the both of you have a training issue.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:29 PM
Nov 2017

This dog here


would walk next to me without a leash in a crowd of thousands. I got him to the point where the commands "Come, sit, stay" were independent and would work at the extent of my voice range to him. If he could see me but be too far away to hear me, they would work via hand and/or arm gestures. I could get him to sit and stay, walk 250 yards or more away (I've done it, many times) and with a wave of my arm from above my head to my side, he would come running, round my back and sit.

It's all in the training. Your dog wants to please you more than anything. It will only run if it thinks it can get away with it.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
14. Sounds great.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:15 PM
Nov 2017

Now here's the story of the dog.

We adopted her as a young puppy from our local shelter. She was the last of the litter. She and her siblings were found abandoned in a parking lot, no mother with them.

She was completely untrained, and we don't know how long she was separated from the mother, but there were no signs of maternal modification in her behavior.

She went to puppy classes. She has had three dog trainers. None of them have been able to break her desire to run. The first one moved out of the area, the second one told us, after quite a bit of money, that there was "nothing she could do" and "some dogs just run". We've had our current trainer & dogwalker for almost two years. She is wonderful and knowledgeable, and still has to hold onto her collar when getting her out of the car, ect, or she will book. And she is fast.

She is perfectly trained in all other areas, as are our other dogs. They can be off leash and come immediately when called. I've got a lifetime of experience with dogs and have never owned one with such strong running tendencies.

Maybe you would have the magic formula.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
16. Yes, and thanks.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:09 PM
Nov 2017

He's been gone 13 years this past summer and I miss him every single day.

I don't think I had a magic formula, and in retrospect, perhaps my post above was too much of a broad brush.

The book I used is "Good owners, Great Dogs" by Brian Kilcommon, a student of the late Barbara Woodhouse. Ms. Woodhouse was famous for, among many things, being able to take a random shelter dog and get it to heel and have manners within minutes.

One thing Mr. Kilcommon stresses in his book is the training that effects outside behavior is served best by certain inside behavior modifications. Things that are sort of counter intuitive, like keeping the young dog (or even adult) on a leash INSIDE until it becomes aware of what you want, etc.

I didn't mean to diminish your efforts, not by any means, nor the poster above, and I'm sorry if I came off that way. I also understand that each dog is different, some more strong willed than others. But as I said above, once the dog is emotionally attached to you, its fondest desire is to please you. That is the key.

I wish you many years of happiness with your dog (Edit; ALL your pets!) and hope he (they) live a long and healthy life.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
20. Thank you.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:29 AM
Nov 2017

I'm sorry about your dog. I've lost several over the years and it is horrible. What was his name?

I admit I am hypersensitive when I hear the training thing, and I realize how it sounds when I say she won't come when she's called. It's her one wild hair area. When I was really sick last year, she wouldn't leave my side. If I got up to go anywhere in the house, she stuck so close it was actually starting to irritate me, lol. I agree completely with what you're saying about the emotional attachment and the wanting to please, but she is like that in every way except the running, which adds to the frustration.

I have read Woodhouse's book "No Bad Dogs." I will look into Kilcommon's, thanks.

I can't imagine my life without our dogs, although I am hoping for a Roomba for Christmas!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
22. That was Mr. Beau Brummel
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 09:12 AM
Nov 2017

“BB” for short.

The most gregarious dog I’ve ever known. He didn’t have a mean bone in his body and just simply loved everyone he met.

He also had a particular fondness for children.

Every pet owner has humorous stories they can relate and one of my favorites about Mr. BB involved my neighbors when I lived in Dearborn Michigan. I had taught BB to play dead by pointing my finger at him and saying “bang, dead dog” and he would flop over on his side and wait for the release. Not a particularly unique trick by any means. My neighbor in Dearborn was a retired ford worker who had grandchildren that often visited and they got to know Mr. BB very well. I had a fenced backyard so BB could stay outside unsupervised for extended periods. One day I was sitting inside, all the windows were open and I hear this “Bang, BB, bang!” Then some giggling, a couple seconds pass and then the same thing. “Bang, BB! Bang!”

This went on for three or four cycles until I had to get up and see what was going on. I looked out the back door and there is my dog next to the fence with the neighbor children shooting him with their toy popguns ! BB would dutifully fall over, lay there for a couple seconds, then get up and wag his little stump of a tail waiting for the process to repeat! The neighbor kids were shooting my dog and he was dying for them! He had a wonderful sense of humor if that can be attributed .

He was Named in honor of this dog, Ch. Mr. Beau Tye who was receiving the award that made him a “Champion “ in this picture. That’s me when I was younger and good looking!


GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
23. Hey, it was the seventies.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:15 PM
Nov 2017


Seriously, what a smart clown for playing with the kids like that. That story made me tear up. Thanks for sharing.

RIP, sweet dog.

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. Not all breeds are alike. Some are bred to respond to humans, others are
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 04:49 PM
Nov 2017

bred to be more independent. Its just highly developed instinctive behaviors, but even within breeds some dogs are more successful at maximizing their inherited traits than others. Certainly all dogs can benefit from basic training, but it takes a lot of repetition and dedication to progress beyond the simple "come, sit, stay" commands that all companion dogs should learn.

I have had Great Pyrenees for decades, a breed that is prized for being independent thinkers and capable of making their own decisions without human direction. They are vigilant and fiercely protective of their family and and everything within their territory, but still patient and gentle by nature, they would protect me to their dying breath (and they have indeed saved me and mine from harm on a few occasions)

They are difficult to train and I would never let them off leash because they have no interest in performing just to please. I am grateful for their intuitive intelligence and loyalty, if not their trainability, and knowing they are always on duty, makes me feel safe and secure out here in the boonies.


Doreen

(11,686 posts)
29. I had my service dog trained to work off leash.
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:35 PM
Nov 2017

I also had very soft directional pulls on his leash for certain commands when he was next to me and could not look at me. Out in public his commands were silent. He did everything by hand command. I would not work him without a leash in public but the way I did it he might as well not have had one. Well, actually I did work him without one in public due to a job that I had that he could not be beside me but he stayed in his place and if I fell he was there immediately to help me. Once in a while when some people would walk by he would get up and just come sit next to me ( he knew. ) At home we would play hide and seek also and I think that was actually a good refresh training to encourage him to want to know where I was at all times. He was one hell of and awesome German Shepherd.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
7. Used to do that with my dog
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:49 PM
Nov 2017

He was a Momma's girl, but the confusion wouldn't last long. Did something similar with my parents dog when I was a kid, used to run around and then hide in the closet, or behind the door to the basement. She would always find me. I could hear her tracing my steps, by smell I'm sure. That was a fun game for both of us.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. I trained my shepherd to find the kids, when they were toddlers.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:08 PM
Nov 2017

Nice rainy day activity, the boys loved the game, the dog always "won" it.

fast forward xxx number of years, our retriever has been "finding" the cats, which is a bit more of a challenge.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
27. Loved that video
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 02:32 PM
Nov 2017

the music helped make it more enjoyable.

It reminded me of the time when I took our last dog, a female German shepherd now departed due to old age, on a walk to a great trail system full of trees, bushes and a lake about 20 minutes from our house. Getting to and from there was a pain due to walking roadside on the shoulder of a busy street, but it was a haven when we arrived. Off-leash for the dog. Our dog, Bella, loved it.

Anyway, on this one occasion I ducked behind some bushes when she got quite a ways ahead of me. I squatted there waiting. Had a grin on my face knowing she would be searching in earnest for me. And I waited. And I waited. After a few minutes, I stood up and looked around. No dog! I started shouting her name. No dog! So I started searching for her. After about 30 minutes, I decided to head home to inform my wife and enlist her services in trying to help find our girl.

Just as I get home, my wife was coming out the door, heading for our car.

"Oh my God, there you are! Are you okay? Is everything okay?"

I sheepishly admitted that the dog was lost.

"No she's not. She's in the house," my wife replied. "I had just got out of the shower when I heard scratching at the door and I looked out and there's Bella but no you. I was worried that something terrible had happened to you."

So the dog made her way all the way home without me, which was quite a feat. And it was a lesson to me to be careful when playing hide-and-seek with that dog!

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