Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:32 AM Nov 2017

Actor association.....fill in the actor of today that reminds you of these actors of the old days...

Cary Grant = George Clooney. and that’s as far as I can go......
Jimmy Stewart =
Rock Hudson. =
Tony Curtis =
Fred Astaire. =
Paul Newman =

Lauren Bacall. =
Deborah Kerr =
Betty Davis =
Marilyn Monroe. =


Been watching a lot of TCM of late, and really miss some of these old actors male and female. Guess it is a different time now.....

38 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Actor association.....fill in the actor of today that reminds you of these actors of the old days... (Original Post) a kennedy Nov 2017 OP
Jimmy Stewart Tom Hanks Freddie Nov 2017 #1
Ya, I see that....... a kennedy Nov 2017 #2
Not great at this, Neil Patrick Harris Fred Astair. dewsgirl Nov 2017 #3
Ya, ya, both song and dance men.......good. a kennedy Nov 2017 #5
Lauren Bacall. Cate Blanchett LisaM Nov 2017 #4
Have not seen Carol, but love Cate......great actor. a kennedy Nov 2017 #6
I highly recommend it. LisaM Nov 2017 #7
Carol hibbing Nov 2017 #12
Tony Curtis Robert Downey, Jr. Glorfindel Nov 2017 #8
Does it seem to anyone else that this latest group of actors is not that memorable? femmocrat Nov 2017 #9
Ha ha my husband says the same thing.......that they all look alike. a kennedy Nov 2017 #10
Oh yes! femmocrat Nov 2017 #11
Primacy effect. The "Old-Time" actors are more memorable because you knew them first. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #15
I'm sure it's just old-fogeyism... malthaussen Dec 2017 #19
Yes, totally agree. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #31
And these new stars won't get off of your lawn! Orrex Dec 2017 #33
Even Johnny Depp and Leonardo D are getting old. pressbox69 Dec 2017 #32
Paul Newman Brad Pitt Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #13
These could be our winners so far.....all excellent.... a kennedy Nov 2017 #14
I would actually say Audrey Hepburn is closer to Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #16
Audrey Hepburn and Meryl Streep? malthaussen Dec 2017 #18
Autocorrect does not like Bette Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #20
Considering just academy awards... malthaussen Dec 2017 #22
Considering Academy Awards is like using the Hall of Fame Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #24
Oh, I agree... malthaussen Dec 2017 #29
Gosh, I hope Gloria is feeling better. sl8 Dec 2017 #21
Louis Armstrong - Forest Whitaker whistler162 Nov 2017 #17
Errol Flynn--Orlando Bloom ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #23
I think it's almost impossible to compare today's actors with the actors of the old days.. Demoiselle Dec 2017 #25
Here Are a Couple Leith Dec 2017 #26
Wow.....those photos of Flynn and Kline are very similar a kennedy Dec 2017 #27
It Helps When You Have Dozens of Each to Choose From Leith Dec 2017 #28
That's true, that is... malthaussen Dec 2017 #30
Jack Nicholson -- Christian Slater red dog 1 Dec 2017 #34
Yah, ive Heard Christians Jack and loved it........ a kennedy Dec 2017 #35
Michael Keaton reminds me of Jack. pressbox69 Dec 2017 #37
Heddy Lamar - Gal Gadot wyldwolf Dec 2017 #36
Liam Neeson is the current day Gary Cooper. pressbox69 Dec 2017 #38

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
7. I highly recommend it.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:13 AM
Nov 2017

Along with the book it's based on. It got very unfairly buried at the Oscars.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
12. Carol
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:52 PM
Nov 2017

Such a quiet and interesting movie. Both women are gorgeous. Rooney Mara was so cute in that movie.


Peace

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
9. Does it seem to anyone else that this latest group of actors is not that memorable?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:45 AM
Nov 2017

They kind of all look alike to me. Maybe it's because I haven't seen their movies. I kept seeing Idris Elba mentioned for "Sexiest Man" and I had no idea who he was.

Those old-time actors, and even the ones from the 1960s-70s-80s, seemed so much more glamorous and distinctive looking. (I sound like an old fogey.) I can visualize every one of those names, but wouldn't be able to identify any of the current crop of Ryans and Chrises.

a kennedy

(29,618 posts)
10. Ha ha my husband says the same thing.......that they all look alike.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:48 AM
Nov 2017
Even says that about country singers of today....he’s so old country, the true twang country singers.
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
15. Primacy effect. The "Old-Time" actors are more memorable because you knew them first.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

The Recency effect is diluted due to the broader spread of media. There simply are more actors now, so none of them are as memorable. Back then, the relatively smaller number of movie studios, the contract systems and virtual lack of any television productions like that that exist today, resulted in greater saturation of "stars". You saw the same actors in many more productions because that was the recipe for success then.

Today's actors are more concerned about type casting and studios are reluctant to go to "star power" due to budget concerns, today's star command a far higher salary than the contract actors of yore.

How could one possibly remember actors that they have never seen?

Being a very tail end 'boomer" (1962), I know the listed actors from seeing movies on TV and cable. If I asked my niece about any of the listed, she would know Jimmy Stewart solely due to "It's a Wonderful Life" and Marilyn Monroe due to static pictures only or people impersonating her. The others, she would not recognize at all. There are "stars" today that my response would be "Who is that?"

I believe that actors should be known for their own body of work and not as a rehashed version of a former actor. Stars are stars in their own right. The entire premise of this thread is flawed in my opinion. The greats of yesteryear will fade with the memory of those who made them great. They will be replaced by newer actors who will be much more memorable to the relevant generations, who will in turn fade and be replaced.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
19. I'm sure it's just old-fogeyism...
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:37 AM
Dec 2017

.. but few actors of today seem to me to be able to summon the gravitas of actors of earlier days. Of course, there is the reverse problem: the Golden Age was plagued with overactors and poor technicians, whereas today even the children are seasoned professionals.

And there are some actors who are clearly brilliant, but they are immersed in a sea of pretty non-entities.

I'll agree that the premise of the thread is flawed. Any comparison is bound to make somebody wince. Or commit video-screen violence.

-- Mal

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. Yes, totally agree.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dec 2017

The new guard can't hold a candle to the glamorous stars of old Hollywood. Neither in talent or in star power.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
32. Even Johnny Depp and Leonardo D are getting old.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 02:05 AM
Dec 2017

Seems most of the great actors these days are British or Australian.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
13. Paul Newman Brad Pitt
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:34 PM
Nov 2017

Very good to great actors who were both kind of pretty boys.

Rock Hudson = Tom Selleck, more rugged leading men type.

Betty Davis = Meryl Streep. Premier actresses of their time.

Marilyn Monroe = Jessica Simpson. Blonde bombshells who really cannot act but tremendous sex appeal.


What do you think?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
16. I would actually say Audrey Hepburn is closer to
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:36 PM
Nov 2017

Meryl Streep than Betty Davis, but it's close, maybe too close to call.

Anna Nicole Smith was always compared to Marilyn, but Smith never really acted in movies plus she has passed so I DQ'd her.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
18. Audrey Hepburn and Meryl Streep?
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:31 AM
Dec 2017

In what way are these actresses comparable?

And please, it's Bette Davis, not "Betty."


There's a cute scene in "NCIS" where diNozzo is appalled at McGee because the latter doesn't know who Gary Cooper is. Sic transit gloria mundi, and Tuesday's not much better.

-- Mal

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
20. Autocorrect does not like Bette
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

And Streep and Hepburn are both considered the top actresses of their generation. In terms of accomplishment, I think both are comparable.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
22. Considering just academy awards...
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017

Audrey has one and Meryl has four. As for nominations, there is no comparison. As to range -- well, I think Audrey was a lovable-enough gamin, but Meryl Streep can play anything and has played everything.

Now, Kate Hepburn has the same number of Oscars as Meryl Streep, but no one would accuse her of great range ("The full gamut of emotions from A to B," I believe Dorothy Parker said). She just did a good job playing Kate Hepburn. But in the sole criterion of being awarded the Oscar, she can match Meryl. But IMO, they aren't comparable as actresses, since Meryl has demonstrated considerably more range and depth.

-- Mal

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
24. Considering Academy Awards is like using the Hall of Fame
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:05 PM
Dec 2017

As your sports criterion. Jerry Jones got in....

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
29. Oh, I agree...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:54 AM
Dec 2017

... I think Halls of Fame basically suck. But comparing Oscars is a quasi-objective measure; in the absence of any other, it's okay for ballpark estimates.

But after all, Donald Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, so we must be wary.

-- Mal

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
17. Louis Armstrong - Forest Whitaker
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:15 PM
Nov 2017

Always thought he would do a good job in a bio picture of Satchmo.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
25. I think it's almost impossible to compare today's actors with the actors of the old days..
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:15 PM
Dec 2017

Back in the old days, the movie star's persona was carefully crafted not just by the actor himself…but by the whole studio system. The system was a protection, of course, but it probably limited a few people as well.
Actors these days are out there pretty much on their own. (I feel I know George Clooney a bit. There's no way I can possibly really know Cary Grant. But I love them both.)

Leith

(7,808 posts)
28. It Helps When You Have Dozens of Each to Choose From
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:50 PM
Dec 2017

and if you've seen Kline as the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance and Errol Flynn as Robin Hood.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
30. That's true, that is...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:58 AM
Dec 2017

... the same person can look completely different in another picture.

And let's not even talk about hair color... I have three pix of Lauren Bacall that Bogey took over a year's time. In the first she's blonde, in the second, brunette, and in the last she has auburn hair. Since Bogey called her "Reds" in a black-and-white film, I'm betting that the latter was her "real" hair color.

-- Mal

red dog 1

(27,783 posts)
34. Jack Nicholson -- Christian Slater
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:06 PM
Dec 2017

Nicholson is not really "of the old days" like Jimmy Stewart, Tony Curtis or Rock Hudson,
but at 80 he's still going strong.
Christian Slater looks and talks like him, imo, and he's only 48

Scarlett Johansson reminds me of Ingrid Bergman

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
36. Heddy Lamar - Gal Gadot
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:53 PM
Dec 2017

One was a beautiful non-American actress who some say was an inspiration for Wonder Woman's 'look.'
One is a beautiful non-American actress and IS Wonder Woman!

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»Actor association.....fil...