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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsActor association.....fill in the actor of today that reminds you of these actors of the old days...
Cary Grant = George Clooney. and thats as far as I can go......
Jimmy Stewart =
Rock Hudson. =
Tony Curtis =
Fred Astaire. =
Paul Newman =
Lauren Bacall. =
Deborah Kerr =
Betty Davis =
Marilyn Monroe. =
Been watching a lot of TCM of late, and really miss some of these old actors male and female. Guess it is a different time now.....
Freddie
(9,257 posts)a kennedy
(29,618 posts)Jimmy Stewart is one of my all time favorites.......
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)a kennedy
(29,618 posts)LisaM
(27,794 posts)Her performance in "Carol" was a throwback to glamour days.
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)LisaM
(27,794 posts)Along with the book it's based on. It got very unfairly buried at the Oscars.
Such a quiet and interesting movie. Both women are gorgeous. Rooney Mara was so cute in that movie.
Peace
Glorfindel
(9,720 posts)Deborah Kerr = Michelle Dockery (Lady Mary Crawley)
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)They kind of all look alike to me. Maybe it's because I haven't seen their movies. I kept seeing Idris Elba mentioned for "Sexiest Man" and I had no idea who he was.
Those old-time actors, and even the ones from the 1960s-70s-80s, seemed so much more glamorous and distinctive looking. (I sound like an old fogey.) I can visualize every one of those names, but wouldn't be able to identify any of the current crop of Ryans and Chrises.
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Not only do they look alike, to my untrained ear, they all sound alike!
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The Recency effect is diluted due to the broader spread of media. There simply are more actors now, so none of them are as memorable. Back then, the relatively smaller number of movie studios, the contract systems and virtual lack of any television productions like that that exist today, resulted in greater saturation of "stars". You saw the same actors in many more productions because that was the recipe for success then.
Today's actors are more concerned about type casting and studios are reluctant to go to "star power" due to budget concerns, today's star command a far higher salary than the contract actors of yore.
How could one possibly remember actors that they have never seen?
Being a very tail end 'boomer" (1962), I know the listed actors from seeing movies on TV and cable. If I asked my niece about any of the listed, she would know Jimmy Stewart solely due to "It's a Wonderful Life" and Marilyn Monroe due to static pictures only or people impersonating her. The others, she would not recognize at all. There are "stars" today that my response would be "Who is that?"
I believe that actors should be known for their own body of work and not as a rehashed version of a former actor. Stars are stars in their own right. The entire premise of this thread is flawed in my opinion. The greats of yesteryear will fade with the memory of those who made them great. They will be replaced by newer actors who will be much more memorable to the relevant generations, who will in turn fade and be replaced.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts).. but few actors of today seem to me to be able to summon the gravitas of actors of earlier days. Of course, there is the reverse problem: the Golden Age was plagued with overactors and poor technicians, whereas today even the children are seasoned professionals.
And there are some actors who are clearly brilliant, but they are immersed in a sea of pretty non-entities.
I'll agree that the premise of the thread is flawed. Any comparison is bound to make somebody wince. Or commit video-screen violence.
-- Mal
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The new guard can't hold a candle to the glamorous stars of old Hollywood. Neither in talent or in star power.
Orrex
(63,173 posts)pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Seems most of the great actors these days are British or Australian.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Very good to great actors who were both kind of pretty boys.
Rock Hudson = Tom Selleck, more rugged leading men type.
Betty Davis = Meryl Streep. Premier actresses of their time.
Marilyn Monroe = Jessica Simpson. Blonde bombshells who really cannot act but tremendous sex appeal.
What do you think?
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)Bravo Drahthaardogs.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Meryl Streep than Betty Davis, but it's close, maybe too close to call.
Anna Nicole Smith was always compared to Marilyn, but Smith never really acted in movies plus she has passed so I DQ'd her.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)In what way are these actresses comparable?
And please, it's Bette Davis, not "Betty."
There's a cute scene in "NCIS" where diNozzo is appalled at McGee because the latter doesn't know who Gary Cooper is. Sic transit gloria mundi, and Tuesday's not much better.
-- Mal
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And Streep and Hepburn are both considered the top actresses of their generation. In terms of accomplishment, I think both are comparable.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)Audrey has one and Meryl has four. As for nominations, there is no comparison. As to range -- well, I think Audrey was a lovable-enough gamin, but Meryl Streep can play anything and has played everything.
Now, Kate Hepburn has the same number of Oscars as Meryl Streep, but no one would accuse her of great range ("The full gamut of emotions from A to B," I believe Dorothy Parker said). She just did a good job playing Kate Hepburn. But in the sole criterion of being awarded the Oscar, she can match Meryl. But IMO, they aren't comparable as actresses, since Meryl has demonstrated considerably more range and depth.
-- Mal
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)As your sports criterion. Jerry Jones got in....
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)... I think Halls of Fame basically suck. But comparing Oscars is a quasi-objective measure; in the absence of any other, it's okay for ballpark estimates.
But after all, Donald Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, so we must be wary.
-- Mal
sl8
(13,679 posts)Sorry to say, mass transit is not for everyone.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Always thought he would do a good job in a bio picture of Satchmo.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Gorgeous facial bones!
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Back in the old days, the movie star's persona was carefully crafted not just by the actor himself
but by the whole studio system. The system was a protection, of course, but it probably limited a few people as well.
Actors these days are out there pretty much on their own. (I feel I know George Clooney a bit. There's no way I can possibly really know Cary Grant. But I love them both.)
Leith
(7,808 posts)Katherine Hepburn and Kate Mulgrew
Errol Flynn and Kevin Kline
YMMV
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)Leith
(7,808 posts)and if you've seen Kline as the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance and Errol Flynn as Robin Hood.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)... the same person can look completely different in another picture.
And let's not even talk about hair color... I have three pix of Lauren Bacall that Bogey took over a year's time. In the first she's blonde, in the second, brunette, and in the last she has auburn hair. Since Bogey called her "Reds" in a black-and-white film, I'm betting that the latter was her "real" hair color.
-- Mal
red dog 1
(27,783 posts)Nicholson is not really "of the old days" like Jimmy Stewart, Tony Curtis or Rock Hudson,
but at 80 he's still going strong.
Christian Slater looks and talks like him, imo, and he's only 48
Scarlett Johansson reminds me of Ingrid Bergman
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Something about the eyes and the delivery.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)One was a beautiful non-American actress who some say was an inspiration for Wonder Woman's 'look.'
One is a beautiful non-American actress and IS Wonder Woman!
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Neeson should do a remake of High Noon.