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rurallib

(62,406 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:19 PM Mar 2018

Time - if one becomes permanent would you want daylight or standard time? Poll

Hope that makes sense. Many folks are squawking about the twice a year changes in our time. Some states are actually moving to do something - Florida for instance is looking to go to permanent daylight time.

So if someday we decide to quit changing the clock, would you want the permanent time to be daylight or standard? One or the other, no alternatives. Tell us why if you want.

As for me I am for standard time forever.


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Time - if one becomes permanent would you want daylight or standard time? Poll (Original Post) rurallib Mar 2018 OP
standard time darker earlier? Skittles Mar 2018 #1
Yes, if you're asking. Butterflylady Mar 2018 #2
yep me too rurallib Mar 2018 #7
Standard time, When the sun is at maximum over head it is noon. TexasProgresive Mar 2018 #3
Isn't the whole idea of clocks arbitrary? I know the greeks and babylonians pangaia Mar 2018 #13
Clocks are not arbitrary they are an analog of TexasProgresive Mar 2018 #15
How can something that flows like time be broken up into arbitrary little digital bits..? pangaia Mar 2018 #18
Time is broken up into arbitrary little bits. Wolf Frankula Mar 2018 #19
You win. pangaia Mar 2018 #20
glad we cleared that up, aren't you? rurallib Mar 2018 #24
Yup... pangaia Mar 2018 #25
Darker later, which one is that? marylandblue Mar 2018 #4
Daylight Lochloosa Mar 2018 #5
Really don't care--just pick one! I'm happy to go with the majority. shanny Mar 2018 #6
My answer too just pick pone and stick with it. Va Lefty Mar 2018 #23
Whatever time we have in the summer, I like the extra doc03 Mar 2018 #8
daylight, then rurallib Mar 2018 #9
To some it would depend on whether they live on the eastern or western end of their time zone. Jack-o-Lantern Mar 2018 #10
I lived in a state without DST dawg day Mar 2018 #11
Other jberryhill Mar 2018 #12
Just change your watch to whatever time you want? pangaia Mar 2018 #14
You must work in my office. FSogol Mar 2018 #21
To me the biggest problem with the current system PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #16
Compromise defacto7 Mar 2018 #17
continuously variable transition time Blues Heron Mar 2018 #32
Don't care. Just pick one and go with it. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2018 #22
Agree Thew Mar 2018 #27
I've gone from liking DST to hating it and then back again. It all depended on my job at brewens Mar 2018 #26
I've lived in Arizona for 30+ years: No DST Nac Mac Feegle Mar 2018 #28
I would prefer that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #29
Daylight because morning hours don't exist to me Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #30
As a lifetime night-owl, the "longer" afternoons & lingering evening daylight are a perfect match. VOX Mar 2018 #31

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. Standard time, When the sun is at maximum over head it is noon.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:23 PM
Mar 2018

Arbitrarily changing a clock does not change that fact. In the winter there is less daylight especially in northern latitudes so it is a moot point to have DST in the winter. They (Nixon) tried that during the gas crisis and in Houston which is far south kids were catching the bus before dawn and arriving home after sunset during the winter months.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. Isn't the whole idea of clocks arbitrary? I know the greeks and babylonians
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:32 PM
Mar 2018

So--- why not metric time?

Metric time?
In 1998, the Swiss watch company Swatch introduced the concept of a decimal Internet Time in which the day is divided into 1000 'beats' so that each beat is equal to 1 minute 26.4 seconds. The beats were denoted by the @ symbol, so that, for example, @250 denotes a time period equal to six hours.

"So far this system has not caught on," says Lomb.


I cannot imagine why?

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2011/11/15/3364432.htm

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
19. Time is broken up into arbitrary little bits.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:55 PM
Mar 2018

The smallest unit of time is the chronon, the time it takes a quark to move one hodon.

Wolf

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. I lived in a state without DST
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:05 PM
Mar 2018

Then the legislature finally caved and made us like the rest of the country.
I was grumpy about it. Why?

Then... wow. Summer evenings that lasted long enough to have a barbecue before the mosquitoes settled in...
Didn't have to adjust from "New York Time" to "Chicago time" and vice versa.

Having lived without DST, well, I can say DST all year long. I'd love it. Long summer evenings are like a gift now.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
16. To me the biggest problem with the current system
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:01 PM
Mar 2018

is that DST starts too soon and lasts too long.

Mid-April to the end of September would be sufficient.

And this country did try year round DST a while back and it was a disaster. Kids waiting for school busses in the dark mornings kept on getting hit by drivers not used to seeing kids waiting for the school bus in the dark.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
17. Compromise
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:19 PM
Mar 2018

Set clocks ahead 10 minutes every month March through August and 10 minutes back per month September through February. Much more smooth. Better... 5 min every 2 weeks and throw in a leap day twice a year. That should make it interesting.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
32. continuously variable transition time
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:09 PM
Mar 2018

great idea! You could even program it so that every minute during cvtt was a few seconds longer during spring cvtt, and a few seconds shorter during fall cvtt for increased transition smoothness.

on edit maybe I got that backwards

brewens

(13,563 posts)
26. I've gone from liking DST to hating it and then back again. It all depended on my job at
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:50 AM
Mar 2018

the time. I'm retired now so let it stay light later I guess. DST.

I drove trucks and buses for years, always short day runs. I always like driving home with a little daylight left. On the other hand, one of those jobs I had to be at my first stop by 3:30 am. Just as it started getting lighter and warmer earlier, they moved it forward on me! Then I had to go to bed too early to enjoy that extra daylight and it made it harder to get to sleep.

Nac Mac Feegle

(969 posts)
28. I've lived in Arizona for 30+ years: No DST
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:10 PM
Mar 2018

Just pick one.

Not having to muck around with the changes is a LOT more convenient.

Just do what you want when it fits the light conditions.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
29. I would prefer that...
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:36 PM
Mar 2018

...everywhere in the world adopt UTC. It's the same time everywhere. Get used to it. If you want more light in the evening, get up earlier. No more changing ever. No spring ahead. No change the watch when your flight lands. Keep it simple. It's just a number.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
30. Daylight because morning hours don't exist to me
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:56 PM
Mar 2018

I see 8 or 9 AM only two or three times per year, and only in disgust when it happens, because I'm being forced to do something I don't want to do.

My sleep hours are 4:30 AM to 11:30 AM, sometimes delayed until noon or 12:30 PM wake up if I need to catch up on sleep.

Due to all of the above that daylight is beyond wasted in the morning. I don't care if the entire planet is dark until 11 AM Eastern time.

But the late afternoon sun is absolutely glorious for twilight golf, or working outside in the yard, and countless other possibilities. It is fabulous to be typing this nearing 7 PM with still plenty of daylight going on.

Darkness is okay for Christmas season. I'll concede that. If we need standard time maybe it should be Thanksgiving to sometime in January, or perhaps the Super Bowl.

I am fair.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
31. As a lifetime night-owl, the "longer" afternoons & lingering evening daylight are a perfect match.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:07 PM
Mar 2018

Love it when it starts, hate it when it goes away. Would like to set the clock on DST for good.

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