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Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:27 PM Nov 2018

McDonald's kiosks found to have poop on them

"Traces of faeces have been found on every single McDonald’s touchscreen swabbed in an investigation by metro.co.uk. Samples were taken from the new machines that have been rolled out at restaurants across the country – every one of them had coliforms."

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/28/poo-found-on-every-mcdonalds-touchscreen-tested-8178486/?ito=cbshare

Wash your hands after you order and before you eat.

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McDonald's kiosks found to have poop on them (Original Post) Kaleva Nov 2018 OP
Everything designed to be touched by members of the public has fecal bacteria on it. RockRaven Nov 2018 #1
And anti-bacteria wipes do NOTHING to stop most GI illnesses. Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #2
i use my knuckles for publicly used touch screens and such. unblock Nov 2018 #3
I use paper towels when opening and closing sink faucets Kaleva Nov 2018 #9
I don't do any of that. I feel that such paranoia is silly at best. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #12
I am of the exact same mindset ... I worry about germs 0% of the time ... I wash hands post-poop ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #15
I am now 70. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #22
Preachin' to the Choir, PO :) mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #24
They should adopt that attitude at hospitals where they are very "paranoid" about washing hands Kaleva Dec 2018 #18
I do volunteer work in a homeless shelter, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #23
From the CDC Kaleva Dec 2018 #29
And anti-bacterial gels and wipes DO NOT replace hand washing! TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #31
I guess I should Turbineguy Nov 2018 #4
Avoid KFC where everything is finger licking good. Kaleva Nov 2018 #5
An excelent suggestion! Turbineguy Dec 2018 #13
Pretty much everything has traces of fecal matter on it. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #6
I don't think it's fear mongering the article, and others that report that same story, are going for Kaleva Nov 2018 #8
Yep. And we all ingest some of that Codeine Dec 2018 #21
Better yet, stop going to fast food places. milestogo Nov 2018 #7
Fabulous start to the weekend, lol. Nt BootinUp Nov 2018 #10
I shudder to think what's on the food. edbermac Nov 2018 #11
The McFecal Value Meal Blue Owl Dec 2018 #14
I always wondered what was different about their French fries 🍟. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #26
So does your toothbrush. Iggo Dec 2018 #16
I keep mine in the medicine cabinet in a glass of cider vinegar. Kaleva Dec 2018 #19
Then you're special then. Iggo Dec 2018 #30
New at McDump Wolf Frankula Dec 2018 #17
Everything people put their fingers on Codeine Dec 2018 #20
Debunked pepperbear Dec 2018 #25
I figured it was a bunch of crap. Historic NY Dec 2018 #27
They have found both urine and fecal matter on candy set out by registers and in banks too. appleannie1943 Dec 2018 #28

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
1. Everything designed to be touched by members of the public has fecal bacteria on it.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:34 PM
Nov 2018

People are just like that.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
2. And anti-bacteria wipes do NOTHING to stop most GI illnesses.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:41 PM
Nov 2018

Because so many GI illnesses are caused by viruses, anti-bacterial wipes do not kill the germs. Even Lysol, which kills 99+% of viruses doesn't kill noro-virus. Just make sure to wash your hands WELL after using public touch screens and avoid touching your face/eyes.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
3. i use my knuckles for publicly used touch screens and such.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:01 PM
Nov 2018

then i wash when i get the chance. at least if i avoid fingertips i'm less likely to spread it around....

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
9. I use paper towels when opening and closing sink faucets
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:49 PM
Nov 2018

I'll flush the urinal with my elbow and if the bathroom door has a knob on it, I'll grapb another paper towel to open and close the doot and then toos the paper towel in a garbage can.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
12. I don't do any of that. I feel that such paranoia is silly at best.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:22 AM
Dec 2018

Oh, and I get sick less than anyone else I know.

In my personal experience, the ones who behave as you do, oddly enough come down with everything. Being exposed to stuff and getting immunity is helpful.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. I am of the exact same mindset ... I worry about germs 0% of the time ... I wash hands post-poop ...
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:24 AM
Dec 2018

And sometimes before eating, esp. finger food, and esp. if I know my hands aren't that clean. That's pretty much it. I mean a REAL nasty, like gas station bathroom? I'll grab a tissue to open the handle on the way out, but ... that's as extreme as I get.

Other than that? I've given zero f***s about germs, basically my whole life.

Last time I was bedridden-sick due to illness? Pretty sure it was when I was a teenager. I'm 51 now.

I get a legit cold about every 5 years or so, but it usually lasts about 2-3 days.

Never had a flu-shot. And I've not had the flu since I was like 12. My first year living in Hong Kong, incidentally.

My ex-wife was obsessively paranoid about germs, been that way her whole life ... and she was sick 2-3 times a year we were together, minimum.

I think if you GREW UP paranoid and avoiding germs, you probably had best continue to do so, cause ... you screwed up already (or your parents did), and there's no way to fix it.

I grew up eatin' dirt, so ...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
22. I am now 70.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:47 AM
Dec 2018

Don't get a flu shot. I got flu any number of times growing up, and I am pretty sure I got the Asian Flu back in 1957/58. It was a type A flu, the most virulent, like the Hong Kong flu of 1969 or the Spanish flu of 1918/19. Here's the thing that a lot of people don't get: once you've gotten a particular kind of flu, you can't get it again. So for those of us who got flu in earlier decades, we're just fine. If you're a lot younger or never got flu back then, you are probably very sensible to get a flu shot.

I have huge faith in my immune system. I will add that since I am now 70, and understand enough about how the immune system works, I might well decide to start getting flu shots at some point in the future. I might also start getting the pneumonia shot. I have gotten the first version of the shingles vaccine, and fully intend to get the next version when it is available.

Here's the basic thing that most people don't get (and is in part why there are certain problems today): our immune system is designed to be challenged early and often. We need to be exposed to lots of things in our early years, so that our immune system (if we don't die) overcomes that particular challenge and will fight it off ever after. Alas, some of those challenges can lead to death. Like smallpox. Nasty disease. High death rate. But if you survived you were immune forever. Unfortunately, survival often came with severe scarring, and back when smallpox was common, a person without smallpox scars was automatically very attractive. I'm an average looking person, but not scarred. Transport me 200 or so years into the past and I'd be considered very pretty.

Here's another thing about smallpox: it had mutated, and a milder version, variola minor, which had a very low death rate, maybe 1%, unlike variola major, the version of smallpox that had been around for thousands of years and had a death rate of 20-40%. Variola minor arose with at least two, maybe three separate mutations, in the late 19th century, which meant that smallpox was rapidly moving to being the kind of relatively benign childhood disease (like chicken pox, mumps, measles, and rubella) that wasn't all that terrible. This happened pretty much exactly at the time that the smallpox vaccination became common.

If we do not get appropriate challenges to our immune system in our early years, the immune system doesn't develop properly and various complications can follow.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. Preachin' to the Choir, PO :)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:12 AM
Dec 2018

Take care of yourself in any case

Once one passes a certain age, the paradigm definitely begins to change ... sounds like you have a great grasp on that. The re-ignition of the chickenpox virus in the system that appears (ATM) to be the cause of shingles is nothing to be F'd with, from what I've seen. If there's an effective later-life vaccine to protect against shingles, makes HUGE sense to avail oneself.

BTW ... F*** VIRUSES, man ... what an absolutely useless and terrible scourge those creatures are ... I mean they're not even freaking ALIVE FFS ... certainly don't reach the status of 'organisms' ... and yet they kill billions of living creatures every year.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
18. They should adopt that attitude at hospitals where they are very "paranoid" about washing hands
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:41 AM
Dec 2018

Giving the patients some immunity would help them in the long run.

Mine comes from training as a foster parent. Actually had to take classes on hygiene and much of that has stayed with me.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
23. I do volunteer work in a homeless shelter,
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:48 AM
Dec 2018

preparing and serving food. I've had training from the local health department that has been very useful. I'm far more aware of how long it is safe to keep food out before refrigerating, and I'm likewise aware that even though I'm healthy with a strong immune system, I'm not living on the street and far more vulnerable to bacteria or viruses.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
29. From the CDC
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:13 AM
Dec 2018

"When should you wash your hands?
girl wiping nose after sneezing

Before, during, and after preparing food
Before eating food
Before and after caring for someone who is sick
Before and after treating a cut or wound
After using the toilet
After changing diapers or cleaning up a child who has used the toilet
After blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing
After touching an animal, animal feed, or animal waste
After handling pet food or pet treats
After touching garbage

How should you wash your hands?
washing hands under running water

Wet your hands with clean, running water (warm or cold), turn off the tap, and apply soap.
Lather your hands by rubbing them together with the soap. Be sure to lather the backs of your hands, between your fingers, and under your nails.
Scrub your hands for at least 20 seconds. Need a timer? Hum the “Happy Birthday” song from beginning to end twice.
Rinse your hands well under clean, running water.
Dry your hands using a clean towel or air dry them."

https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/when-how-handwashing.html

I don't even think about it anymore as it's become part of my routine from caring for foster children

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
6. Pretty much everything has traces of fecal matter on it.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:39 PM
Nov 2018

Imagine all of the hands that have handled the cash and credit cards in your wallet.

Not sure what fear mongering this article is aiming for, you could take a swab of 100 objects and 99 would have fecal matter on them.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
21. Yep. And we all ingest some of that
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:44 AM
Dec 2018

every single day and we’re perfectly fine most of the time. The world is just never gonna be all that clean.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
20. Everything people put their fingers on
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:40 AM
Dec 2018

has poop on it. Some (most? almost all?) people fail to wash up after use the bathroom.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
28. They have found both urine and fecal matter on candy set out by registers and in banks too.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:39 AM
Dec 2018

Judging by the number of people that don't wash their hands after using the bathroom, everything that humans touch in public venues probably has one or the other. It is why I carry a small bag of wipes and a tiny bottle of hand sanitizer in my purse.

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