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Hey, Don't be too mad at Bob Kraft... (Original Post) MrScorpio Feb 2019 OP
Kraft Karma empedocles Feb 2019 #1
"Poor thing," 'eh? calimary Feb 2019 #2
What is with these rich old men? mountain grammy Feb 2019 #3
Well unless you're a disgusting pervert how could you understand it? lunatica Feb 2019 #11
$6 billion can buy everything but fidelity. nt TeamPooka Feb 2019 #29
"a tenant of American Civil Rights"? Ramsey Barner Feb 2019 #4
Well, it does reside there Hekate Feb 2019 #18
Kinda hits you where you live, eh? dchill Feb 2019 #26
K&R LW1977 Feb 2019 #5
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #6
Just curious: Is soliciting services of hookers illegal? question everything Feb 2019 #7
Yes (depending on where you are of course). ET Awful Feb 2019 #9
Thanks. Then, didn't Whiny Donny do this with the Stormy and the other one? question everything Feb 2019 #10
Technically neither one was a sex worker lunatica Feb 2019 #12
Trump offered money, no? EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #19
The money wasn't for sex, it was for silence. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #20
I thought Stormy said he offered money after the sex. Let me check EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #23
I think it was Karen McDougal, and she was offended and didn't take it. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #25
Aha you're right. So he offered at least two women money for sex EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #28
No. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #33
GQ article above: Two women offered money for sex. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #36
Whatever. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #37
He offered two women money for sex EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #38
Do you really think there were only two? littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #39
Ah - it wasn't Stormy it was another girl that Trump offered to pay for sex. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #27
Typical. He thinks that his money can get him anything and shut off others question everything Feb 2019 #32
No. He didn't offer them money for the act. ET Awful Feb 2019 #22
Bob Kraft, Jeffrey Epstein, et al. Mr. Evil Feb 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #13
I was shocked. CaptYossarian Feb 2019 #14
As a Lifetime Patriot Fan I am Disgusted fascisthunter Feb 2019 #15
Sports Blogs moonseller66 Feb 2019 #16
Many Pats fans are upset and done with Kraft EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #21
Nice moral code these wealthy elites live by 90-percent Feb 2019 #17
Thought I read that he disagreed with the orange Jabba on this one? Hulk Feb 2019 #24
Kraft is clearly guilty of employing undocumented workers... Sancho Feb 2019 #30
At least Trump managed to pay an American porn star $130,000 IronLionZion Feb 2019 #31
I'm not mad at the guy...I'm just amazed at his stupidity! red dog 1 Feb 2019 #34
Billionaires cannot resist cheap labor. A chance to chintz was probably more important than the sex. Midnight Writer Feb 2019 #42
I don't think he went looking for a hooker because she would be "cheap Labor" red dog 1 Feb 2019 #48
This elderly man was probably getting his rocks off by participating japple Feb 2019 #35
EXCELLENT! Cha Feb 2019 #40
Coulda had Ann Coulter all to himself! czarjak Feb 2019 #41
"tenet". Not "tenant" ananda Feb 2019 #43
And not to put too fine a point on it . . . MrModerate Feb 2019 #44
They'll normalize his actions duforsure Feb 2019 #45
CNN's Smerconish already tried that. watoos Feb 2019 #46
And Smerconish was one of the main pushers of the Pizzagate hoax. nt tblue37 Feb 2019 #47

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
3. What is with these rich old men?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019

Do they run out of things to do with their money that they need to hire teenagers for their pleasure? I’ll never understand it...

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
9. Yes (depending on where you are of course).
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:33 PM
Feb 2019

Solicitation of Prostitution is a crime.

For instance, in California, it's under Penal Code section 647(b).

https://www.shouselaw.com/engaging_in_prostitution.html

Under California law, if you offer a woman something in exchange for sex, even if she says no, you're in violation of this law.

Other states have similar laws.



lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. Technically neither one was a sex worker
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:51 PM
Feb 2019

And there was no exchange of money for sex. It’s was consenting adults.

But, later both women wanted to write about it so Trump had Michael Cohen pay Stormy to not write the story. He had his friend Pecker buy the Karen McDougal’s story supposedly to publish it in the Enquirer rag which he never did so he could protect his pal Trump.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
36. GQ article above: Two women offered money for sex.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:31 PM
Feb 2019

Neither are Stormy Daniels.
One is Karen McDougal. The other is identified in the GQ article.


In addition to those alleged offers, he paid several women hush money.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
27. Ah - it wasn't Stormy it was another girl that Trump offered to pay for sex.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:46 PM
Feb 2019
I knew I had seen something like this.
Earlier in this GQ article Stormy says she thought during sex “please don’t offer to pay” but he didn’t offer.

After she returned to her own hotel room, Drake has said, she got a call from a man asking her to come back to Trump's suite. It was late. She declined, and soon received a call from Trump himself. Trump invited her to dinner and to a party and then steered the conversation toward how he might make it worth her while. "What do you want?" he asked. "How much?"


https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-karen-mcdougal-tahoe-weekend

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
22. No. He didn't offer them money for the act.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:38 PM
Feb 2019

He offered them money well after the acts occurred. That is not the same thing.

Mr. Evil

(2,825 posts)
8. Bob Kraft, Jeffrey Epstein, et al.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:30 PM
Feb 2019

Just more reasons to be added to the already heaping shit-pile of reasons as to why we don't need fucking billionaires.

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
15. As a Lifetime Patriot Fan I am Disgusted
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:11 PM
Feb 2019

...how sad and pathetic an ending. I wish this all wasn't true, but human trafficking?! Getting off knowing that the person servicing you sexually is doing so without consent.... sick!

moonseller66

(430 posts)
16. Sports Blogs
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:19 PM
Feb 2019

For those interested, go to SBNation

https://www.sbnation.com/blogs

and choose a sports team's blog to read comments on things sports.
For example, if you wanted to know what the fans of New England think about the current situation (and how it's no big deal according to many of them), find the football site then the conference (AFC), then AFC North and then Pats Pulpit.
By selecting the particular team's blog you get to scoll to the bottom to "load comments" which you can read.
You can also read other team's comments, possibly about what those fans think of the Patriots and the situtation, also.

Interesting reading.
One might even call it a study in hyoocrisy.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
21. Many Pats fans are upset and done with Kraft
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:36 PM
Feb 2019

It is New England. Lots of Dems are done with Kraft.

Fan site: most people are skewering Kraft and he’s got only a few defenders.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/kraft-charged-with-soliciting.26358

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
17. Nice moral code these wealthy elites live by
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:23 PM
Feb 2019

Us normal average middle class people would only be able to do this if we were forced at gunpoint. Under age sex slaves for recreation. Maybe they tortured or murdered some of them for the fun of it. That's not too far off, considering their idea of fun!

-90% Jimmy

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
24. Thought I read that he disagreed with the orange Jabba on this one?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:41 PM
Feb 2019

Losing track of all of this stuff. Believe I read it someplace, not that it makes it so, that he disagreed with the con artist's gripe about NFL players taking a knee.

We are handling this whole prostitution thing so wrong in this country anyway. If it were honestly regulated, and the men and women were protected and received health care and support, it wouldn't be the ugly underground mess that it is. But, that's another argument for another day. Shame on this rich old fook....I guess. Anybody dumb enough to chum around with the disgusting swine that occupies the White House is reason enough to punish him.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
31. At least Trump managed to pay an American porn star $130,000
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:53 PM
Feb 2019

Kraft went the sleaziest and dirtiest way that involved human trafficking. Although Trump has probably done that too.

red dog 1

(27,771 posts)
34. I'm not mad at the guy...I'm just amazed at his stupidity!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

How dumb must he be?

He could have gone to the most expensive massage studio in all of Boston.

He could have gotten a hotel room and called the most expensive and attractive escort to come to his room.

He could have, but he didn't.

He deserves all the bad publicity he's getting, not because it was so bad, but because he was so STUPID!!

red dog 1

(27,771 posts)
48. I don't think he went looking for a hooker because she would be "cheap Labor"
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:13 PM
Feb 2019

I think he might have thought that since he was so well known & easily recognized, a massage parlor or an escort service might not be the way to go.....(Big mistake!)

japple

(9,808 posts)
35. This elderly man was probably getting his rocks off by participating
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:10 PM
Feb 2019

in something that caused great harm or death to a young person, possibly even a little child. The buyers of this type of gratification need to be imprisoned for life and the suppliers/traffickers as well.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
44. And not to put too fine a point on it . . .
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 07:57 AM
Feb 2019

But I wonder what color Mr. Kraft's credit-card inamoratas were. I just wonder.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
45. They'll normalize his actions
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:00 AM
Feb 2019

To make it acceptable , but if it were say someone who they oppose they'd be calling for the harshest penalties, and be talking non stop about it, or politicizing it.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
46. CNN's Smerconish already tried that.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 08:55 AM
Feb 2019

He said on air that the publicity to a billionaire 77 year old guy for committing a misdemeanor was way overblown.

Smerconish is being brutalized on social media.

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