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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 07:50 PM Mar 2019

LOL, Obama, a Moonie?

I do too much internet dwelling, guilty as charged. That's the pretext for this post. I came across a rather odd blog called "How well do you know your Moon?" supposedly run by members of the cult, the Unification Church, aka the Moonies. One particular post caught my eye. There was a picture of what was purported to be a picture of a young Barack Obama, speaking at a Moonie event. The caption read "Barack Obama once spoke at an event in support of the co-messiahs of the Unification Church, Rev. Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han, where they were honored as the “True Parents”." Here is the referenced photo:



My instinct as a sane person was to recognize this for what it is: bullshit. Likely a photo-shopped image (the photo is rather grainy). At the same time, I did think about the fact that Obama has talked at length about his Mothers efforts to familiarize him to a range of different faiths growing up, in order to cultivate tolerance. I can't imagine Obama ever attended a Unification Church, let alone spoke at an event for them. Also, the moonies are ultra-right wing and rabidly homophobic among other things (along with being a cult) so I can't imagine the organization being the least bit enticing to a young Obama. Anyway, I tried to search the internet for a debunk of the image or even a mention of it on any other site and came up dry. Anyone here know how to spot a photoshop?

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LOL, Obama, a Moonie? (Original Post) liberalnarb Mar 2019 OP
Horseshyt blm Mar 2019 #1
Meh jberryhill Mar 2019 #2
True, however I was skeptical of the Obama photos authenticity as I could not find it liberalnarb Mar 2019 #3
First off... jberryhill Mar 2019 #4
One of the things you will notice jberryhill Mar 2019 #5

blm

(113,043 posts)
1. Horseshyt
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:17 PM
Mar 2019

That is all.

And I would be the resident Moon expert here. Moon and his print
media outlets paved the way for FOX.

Moonies are activist Republicans and rightwingers, all the way.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon3.html

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Meh
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:32 PM
Mar 2019

It’s not unusual for religious organizations to sponsor various events and invite politicians to curry favor. It’s also not unusual for politicians to speak at events held by their constituents, whomever they may be.

Jim Jones and his church were fairly influential in the Bay Area in their time, and of course rubbed elbows with Moscone, Feinstein, etc..

Suggesting someone is a Moonie on account of s context-free photo is a stretch.

Here’s Al Gore with Fred Phelps - the “God hates Fags” church leader:



Here’s Rosalyn Carter with Jim Jones:



Politicians get their photos taken with all sorts.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
3. True, however I was skeptical of the Obama photos authenticity as I could not find it
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:48 PM
Mar 2019

or any reference to it anywhere else on the internet. The Moonies are also very right wing. I have a hard time seeing them inviting a Democratic politician to speak. Also, Obama's early political career unfolded in Chicago, did the Moonies ever have much community influence there? I also have trouble seeing Obama speaking at an event recognizing the self-proclaimed prophet Moons as the "True Parents" of their congregation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. First off...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:57 PM
Mar 2019

...whatever the event may have been, the characterization accompanying the photograph is unlikely to be accurate.

You might want to run that photo through tineye.com or google search by image.

That there is no reference to it suggests it was not a particularly big deal.

A lot of religious organizations do various things in lots of cities. Politicians showing up at religious organization events, even odd religions, is not unusual. There’s a First Amendment, and no shortage of wacky religions in this country. Many of them have money and voters.

Here’s John Kerry with Rev. Moon’s daughter:

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. One of the things you will notice
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:16 PM
Mar 2019

Is that part of the banner which is clipped, says something about “annual awards”.

One sure fire way to get a politician to come to your event is to give them an award of some kind.

And so, if you dig into this, you find out that there is a “true family values” event held every year in Chicago....

http://familyfed.org/news-story/chicago-holds-23rd-true-family-values-awards-banquet-53996/

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