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CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 09:22 AM Mar 2019

I can no longer drink alcohol, per my gastroenterologist.

And I LOVED sitting down with hubby for a glass of white wine at 5 pm every day. It was a kind of ritual that was nice. So now I sit down with a glass of carbonated Rose grape juice (made by Welch's) in a wine glass. It's delicious! My husband has decided he wouldn't drink wine either, to support me. He has his one beer a day (he's from Wisconsin and half German, what can I say?).

The problem I had, said the doctor, was that my liver was producing enzymes. After just one week of abstinence I got a call from the doctor's office and was told that progress was being made! The test I took for him showed a decrease in my enzyme level. Medically, I'm not sure what that means but he was pretty dire, and direct, in his diagnosis (and inevitable outcome).

Actually, overall I feel better and sleep later (missing Morning Joe, darn it all!). Can't wait til my next blood test and a "back to normal" will be my result!

So, we move on...dentist says I need another root canal. There goes my savings from wine consumption...

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I can no longer drink alcohol, per my gastroenterologist. (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2019 OP
Sparkling apple juice is good too! 😉 MLAA Mar 2019 #1
I have to watch the red grape or cranberry drinks as they stain my teeth. CTyankee Mar 2019 #2
Sparkling water with grape juice. zanana1 Mar 2019 #3
With my new medicine (1994), doc told me: you can either have alcohol or a liver. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #4
I wonder if my doc will put me on meds. He's ordered up a colonoscopy and an MRI of my CTyankee Mar 2019 #5
Colonoscopy prep day is worse than procedure day. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #7
I've had one before so I know. The secret is not eating too much for a day or two before the CTyankee Mar 2019 #10
A cleansing formula named Clenpig? Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #17
I don't care what they call it. I just want the whole procedure over and done with. CTyankee Mar 2019 #19
Hope it all goes easily for you... Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #24
It's PiQ, not Pig lol ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #29
LOL - So it is. Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #34
and white wine is ok during prep day.... but not for the elevated liver stuff... samnsara Mar 2019 #37
IIRC, the colonoscopy prep stuff comes as a power you mix in with water. Hint - CincyDem Mar 2019 #26
No red stuff per the instructions. I'll just mix it with plain ginger ale or 7Up... CTyankee Mar 2019 #35
The enzymes are called transaminases. Aristus Mar 2019 #6
Thank you, Aristus. My gastro doc didn't say the cause was alcohol. It was to stop causing liver CTyankee Mar 2019 #8
Ethnic groups that have used alcohol regularly for hundreds or thousands of years Aristus Mar 2019 #11
Very helpful information! CTyankee Mar 2019 #16
That explains it Freddie Mar 2019 #32
Have you been taking acetaminophen? femmedem Mar 2019 #30
No, I threw that out weeks ago on the advice of my pharmacist. I told him Ihad liver issues and CTyankee Mar 2019 #36
I should lend you some of my DNA DFW Mar 2019 #9
Apricot nectar sounds wonderful! I'll look for it in my supermarket! CTyankee Mar 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Mar 2019 #13
This Is Me RobinA Mar 2019 #25
Please don't worry Botany Mar 2019 #14
Thanks Botany! CTyankee Mar 2019 #15
time to join the weed brigade: munchies and giggles JuJuYoshida Mar 2019 #18
I tried it years ago and really nothing happened, so that was that. CTyankee Mar 2019 #22
It basically never works the first time for anyone ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #28
I'll try and take up the slack..... panader0 Mar 2019 #20
You just gave me a nice laugh...thanks panader0 CTyankee Mar 2019 #21
I can no longer drink hard liquor, according to Jeannie. panader0 Mar 2019 #23
Wow that's a rough one. Especially with these crazy Republicans and Trump in the W.House. YOHABLO Mar 2019 #27
I had to quit drinking over a year ago and instead of WhiteTara Mar 2019 #31
I love my sodastream! Lefta Dissenter Mar 2019 #33

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
2. I have to watch the red grape or cranberry drinks as they stain my teeth.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 09:36 AM
Mar 2019

So I rinse out my mouth after drinking them...kind of a bummer...

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
4. With my new medicine (1994), doc told me: you can either have alcohol or a liver.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

With my new medicine (1994), doc told me: you can either have alcohol or a liver.

Finished my last bottle and started the new medicine the next day.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
5. I wonder if my doc will put me on meds. He's ordered up a colonoscopy and an MRI of my
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 01:47 PM
Mar 2019

abdomen. My head spins just thinking about it all.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
7. Colonoscopy prep day is worse than procedure day.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 01:56 PM
Mar 2019

Colonoscopy prep day is worse than procedure day.
They say you shouldn't go far from the house... hell, you don't want to leave the hallway.

Don't close that bathroom door!

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
10. I've had one before so I know. The secret is not eating too much for a day or two before the
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 02:04 PM
Mar 2019

procedure. That way there is less to rid yourself of. Also the doc gave me a sample (worth about $100!) of the new cleansing stuff, called Clenpiq. It is supposed to be faster, better and not as unpleasant.Yeah, right...

I'll report back here so folks know about the Clenpiq experience...

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
17. A cleansing formula named Clenpig?
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:22 PM
Mar 2019

LOL - sounds a little too close to "clean pig"...does the manufacturer have a warped sense of humor or what? Yikes!

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
37. and white wine is ok during prep day.... but not for the elevated liver stuff...
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:25 AM
Mar 2019

..im going for the mail in test next time. I did that procedure one time and thats enuff...

CincyDem

(6,336 posts)
26. IIRC, the colonoscopy prep stuff comes as a power you mix in with water. Hint -
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 04:40 PM
Mar 2019

...mix it with orange or red gatorade and then just chug it. Compared to trying to just drink it regular with water, it's night and day easier.

Good luck. There is life on the other side.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
35. No red stuff per the instructions. I'll just mix it with plain ginger ale or 7Up...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:29 AM
Mar 2019

and very cold...then I can have my plain chicken broth (which I like, btw)...

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
6. The enzymes are called transaminases.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 01:54 PM
Mar 2019

There's alanine aminotransferase (ALT) and aspartate aminotransferase (AST).

Elevated transaminases are a fairly non-specific sign. It just means something's going wrong with your liver, and we usually suss out the cause from the patient history. Usually, but not always, if the cause is alcohol, your AST will be higher than your ALT. Since the liver is spectacularly good at regenerating itself, transaminase levels start to go down once the offending agent (in this case, alcohol) is eliminated.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
8. Thank you, Aristus. My gastro doc didn't say the cause was alcohol. It was to stop causing liver
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 02:01 PM
Mar 2019

damage. I do not crave alcohol at all, altho I liked it for a variety of reasons, mostly social.

I wondered about how Europeans handled liver damage due to their drinking wine and did some research. There didn't seem to be much difference between how they reacted physically to liver damage from alcohol. My husband said "Your liver was fine with the wine until it wasn't." And that's about it...

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
11. Ethnic groups that have used alcohol regularly for hundreds or thousands of years
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 02:06 PM
Mar 2019

tend to possess an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase, which helps the body to metabolize alcohol more quickly, with lower levels of intoxication, and less damage to the liver.

Ethnic groups that developed without the presence of alcohol did not evolve this enzyme. Which is why alcohol has been so devastating to North American First Nations people.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
16. Very helpful information!
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:28 AM
Mar 2019

Actually, apart from the social issue, I have not felt any repercussions at all. In fact, I feel pretty good about myself! And a dear family member passed away due to alcoholism which devastated me. I don't want to leave my family with that kind of grief and sorrow...

Freddie

(9,256 posts)
32. That explains it
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 06:07 PM
Mar 2019

My husband can drink a pretty good quantity of beer and not appear or act drunk in any way. He’s mostly Irish.

femmedem

(8,196 posts)
30. Have you been taking acetaminophen?
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:11 PM
Mar 2019

If so, I would mention that to your doctor as well.
Glad you're following your doctor's advice.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
36. No, I threw that out weeks ago on the advice of my pharmacist. I told him Ihad liver issues and
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:03 PM
Mar 2019

he told me what I could and couldn't take. Mostly "couldn't."

DFW

(54,277 posts)
9. I should lend you some of my DNA
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 02:03 PM
Mar 2019

Some people can't stand the taste of lima beans. Some people can't stand the taste of tomatoes or mushrooms. I can't stand the taste of alcoholic drinks. Beer, wine, sherry, gin, whiskey, liqueurs, I wouldn't touch them if I were dying of thirst. Just part of my DNA. I gag at the taste of any of them.

Offer me some $50,000 glass of Châteaux Merveilleux 1851 (or whatever), and I'll knock it aside in favor of a glass of apricot nectar.

Response to CTyankee (Reply #12)

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
25. This Is Me
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 04:36 PM
Mar 2019

as well. It occurred to me a couple years ago that basically anything fermented tastes like poison to me. I make it a habit to never say never, but I can safely say I will NEVER be an alcoholic.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. It basically never works the first time for anyone ...
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 04:48 PM
Mar 2019

Most people it takes 2-3 times of ingesting it, for some folks 4-5.

Just so you know. Don't assume you're immune from trying it 1 or 2 times

panader0

(25,816 posts)
23. I can no longer drink hard liquor, according to Jeannie.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

She said it makes me surly--it's been a few years now.
Just beer and a wee bit of homegrown.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
31. I had to quit drinking over a year ago and instead of
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 05:25 PM
Mar 2019

my evening wine, I now drink homemade chai tea made with Rooibos and honey and milk. I have found it is just as relaxing and I too am much healthier.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
33. I love my sodastream!
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

I'm currently enjoying my 5:00 beverage - this time just carbonated water with a very healthy squeeze of lime. I don't use any of those prefab syrups - just juices or maybe some bitters. I haven't stopped drinking alcohol, but I've cut back quite a bit. The sodastream sure helps provide a lot of nice options at a reasonable cost.

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