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(52,115 posts)
1. They tried to make her go to rehab...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 11:37 PM
Sep 2019

Ugh indeed. Incredible talent and just getting started on what could have been a huge collection of amazing tracks.

Brought me back to when Karen carpenter died. Different style of music, but similarly an incredible talent we lost far too soon. A voice like no other.

I heard will you still love me tomorrow recently on the radio, she owns that song now as far as ism concerned. Carole King's version just sounds wrong now, which is really saying something.

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
5. As a recovering addict/alcoholic, I think there's a little more to the "chosing a fatal lifestyle"
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:17 AM
Sep 2019

theory. Yep, it's pretty complicated. Most of us didn't wake up one day and say "I think I'll drink until I black out and/or do drugs that could possibly ruin my life and the lives of those I love. Just sayin'.....

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
10. I can only speak for myself
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:26 AM
Sep 2019

Been smoking pot since 1972. Took some LSD, never went for cocaine. No cigs, no alcohol.

I was headed down that road, but I exited early. I never fault anyone for their vices, but they do have a choice.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
16. Cannabis and LSD aren't physically addicting
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 10:03 AM
Sep 2019

So even if you have a psychological addiction to those things you can break it with a choice.

Many if not most of the things she was using are physically addicting which means that choice has been largely removed. You can actually die from alcohol withdrawal and suicide is a serious side effect of trying to go cold turkey with many of the things she was using.

With some substances it's not a matter of making a choice to continue doing it. It's more accurate to say one has to make a choice to stop and then go through a process of breaking the physical addiction even before the psychological addiction can be addressed.

That's why I think it's so important to legalize cannabis. Even if you only consider the legal alternative which is alcohol, the downward spiral that people get caught up with is sometimes inescapable.

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
9. It does seem that a significant number of the most talented
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:25 AM
Sep 2019

artists that have ever graced our planet have those horrible demons....

sir pball

(4,737 posts)
11. Damn right.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:35 AM
Sep 2019

I feel lucky we have more of them than we've lost.

Hendrix, Jones, Cobain, Morrison, Mama Cass, Joplin, Winehouse...I'm starting to think the "27 Club" isn't just a myth..

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
13. There's a theory involving the Saturn cycle (Astrology) and the 27th year
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:07 AM
Sep 2019

of our lives. I've been fascinated with the "27 Club" for years...

Fla Dem

(23,578 posts)
15. I never heard of the "27 Cub". Fascinating.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 10:03 AM
Sep 2019
The 27 Club is a list consisting mostly of popular musicians, artists, or actors who died at age 27. Although the claim of a "statistical spike" for the death of musicians at that age has been repeatedly disproved by research, it remains a cultural phenomenon, documenting the deaths of celebrities, some noted for their high-risk lifestyles. Names are often put forward for inclusion, but because the club is entirely notional, there is no official membership.


More including a full list of performer who died in their 27th year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
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