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pnwest

(3,266 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:23 PM Mar 2020

Am I thinking wrong in expecting that quarantines and lockdowns are

going to have to last a lot longer than 14 days or a month? It seems to me that everyone needs to shelter in place and businesses need to remain shuttered until there's a vaccine. That's going to be a whole lot longer than a month. Why is no one talking about this? What am I missing here? Sure, flattening the curve is the point, but lifting the restrictions will just create a spike again as people begin mixing again, right?

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Am I thinking wrong in expecting that quarantines and lockdowns are (Original Post) pnwest Mar 2020 OP
More like 2 months. we can do it Mar 2020 #1
Yep, I think until at least mid May to June. Maybe like flu i Fla Dem Mar 2020 #18
This virus doesn't work that way. No seasonal difference. defacto7 Mar 2020 #24
Ugh, thanks for the correction. Fla Dem Mar 2020 #25
I fully expect this to go on for 2 years Sherman A1 Mar 2020 #2
I agree padfun Mar 2020 #7
See, that's kinda where I'm at with this, like at least until pnwest Mar 2020 #42
No, you certainly are NOT wrong. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #3
At least one month, if not more. Two weeks isn't enough. Idiots are still packing the beaches secondwind Mar 2020 #4
bad news is best delivered in small doses Skittles Mar 2020 #5
Here's a data center about all this WhiteTara Mar 2020 #6
severe lockdowns don't need to last very long to be very effective, but definitely more than 15 days unblock Mar 2020 #8
My thoughts exactly. northoftheborder Mar 2020 #9
A vaccine is at least one year out. Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #10
Right - but then wouldnt "letting everyone loose" again pnwest Mar 2020 #20
Yes it would. Then when cases increase you Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #31
life will be significantly altered for 12- 18 mo in my view NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #11
We need at least 3 weeks of consistent message from numb nuts and Fox news. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #12
Much longer if morons keep packing California beaches CanonRay Mar 2020 #13
If you are able to read this, it answers your questions jberryhill Mar 2020 #14
Of course they should, nothing's going away in 14 days but stupid trump will rescind... brush Mar 2020 #15
Trump hasn't shut anything down so there's nothing to rescind SoCalNative Mar 2020 #19
Guess you haven't heard he's itching to get the economy going again. brush Mar 2020 #22
China keeps humming along at 80K active cases Shermann Mar 2020 #16
China is full of shit is what's happening there. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #29
Maybe, but the number of recovered cases in the U.S. is also showing as zero Shermann Mar 2020 #35
Oh, I was in no way saying the US numbers are accurate. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #37
You are correct, in my estimation. nt Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #17
The way I see it, the longer people ignore the yuiyoshida Mar 2020 #21
It's the opposite actually Shermann Mar 2020 #36
I SAID IT CORRECTLY.. yuiyoshida Mar 2020 #38
STOP is not in the cards Shermann Mar 2020 #39
IT will eventually yuiyoshida Mar 2020 #41
It all about pacing the inevitable cases. Trying to slow the spike so thousands more don't die. flying_wahini Mar 2020 #23
Yes, lifting the restrictions now would be suicide, or maybe homicide. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #26
Homicide indeed. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #30
It's not so much how long but how many participate. defacto7 Mar 2020 #27
Restrictions should remain in place for wnylib Mar 2020 #28
I'm with you customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #32
Local restrictions here in Germany DFW Mar 2020 #33
I think that if virus can't find a host, it dies? zanana1 Mar 2020 #34
Some fat guy squattting in our house in Washington, DC disagrees. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #40

Fla Dem

(23,590 posts)
18. Yep, I think until at least mid May to June. Maybe like flu i
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020

it will go into hibernation when the warmer weather arrives.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
7. I agree
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:31 PM
Mar 2020

And things wont go back to where they were. There will be huge panic bailouts and we will eventually find the economy going into Inflation.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
42. See, that's kinda where I'm at with this, like at least until
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020

half the population has been vaccinated. 1.5 -2 years before we see any real movement upwards for the economy.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
4. At least one month, if not more. Two weeks isn't enough. Idiots are still packing the beaches
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020


in FL and CA.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
5. bad news is best delivered in small doses
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:28 PM
Mar 2020

yup

anyone can see this will last for some time, these "deadlines" are meaningless

unblock

(52,125 posts)
8. severe lockdowns don't need to last very long to be very effective, but definitely more than 15 days
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:32 PM
Mar 2020

there's a huge benefit to shutting things down tight for even just 4-6 weeks, although 8-10 weeks is probably much better.

but it doesn't need to be that severe for much longer than that.

the idea is to slow the spread of the virus long enough to allow hospitals to increase capacity with more ventilators, more beds, more intensive care units, more people brought out of retirement, more masks, etc.

once hospital capacity is higher, we can start to ease up on the restriction, not completely, but it no longer needs to be so strict either. the virus then spreads more than it did during the clampdown, but now the hospitals can handle the new cases.

eventually, enough people have been exposed to it already that it no longer spreads as quickly anyway and the restrictions can lift even further. with any luck, the virus is at least somewhat seasonal and warmer weather reduces new cases further....

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
10. A vaccine is at least one year out.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020

Shelter in place isn’t to prevent people from contracting covid. It’s to reduce the number who have it at any given time so medical care will be available for them.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
20. Right - but then wouldnt "letting everyone loose" again
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

do just the opposite again? Cause more people to pass it around and give more cases at once again?

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
12. We need at least 3 weeks of consistent message from numb nuts and Fox news.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:37 PM
Mar 2020

As well as any other place the ignorant masses get their information in order to get this to stop. Young people need to stay home. Stupid people who only watch fox need to stay home. Until that happens we are cooked.

brush

(53,743 posts)
15. Of course they should, nothing's going away in 14 days but stupid trump will rescind...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

the shutdowns, get a lot of people infected and killed and the govs will have to bring sanity again by shutting down again.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
19. Trump hasn't shut anything down so there's nothing to rescind
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:30 PM
Mar 2020

It has been states, counties and cities that have put the measures in place.

CA is on lockdown for an undetermined amount of time as the governor did not provide any date.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
16. China keeps humming along at 80K active cases
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

...despite few new cases each day. What's going on there?

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
35. Maybe, but the number of recovered cases in the U.S. is also showing as zero
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:07 PM
Mar 2020

It is surely higher than that.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
21. The way I see it, the longer people ignore the
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:41 PM
Mar 2020

Shelter in place action, the longer this wil drag on.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
38. I SAID IT CORRECTLY..
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:45 PM
Mar 2020

129 DEATHS in the USA, The NUMBERS are going up because the virus is spreading because people are together in a group. Staying home will stop the spread of the disease.

flying_wahini

(6,578 posts)
23. It all about pacing the inevitable cases. Trying to slow the spike so thousands more don't die.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:58 PM
Mar 2020

Eventually half the people reading this will get it. Probably more, by the time this is over.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
27. It's not so much how long but how many participate.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020

As long as people are in the open spreading the disease the cycle will keep repeating. If everyone on earth could stop spreading it for the time it takes for all ill patients to be resolved, the disease would die off in a few weeks. That won't happen. Everything concerning C-19 being stopped hangs on a vaccine that everyone actually takes or natural immunity which would cost hundreds of millions of lives.

wnylib

(21,345 posts)
28. Restrictions should remain in place for
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

at least 2 months. But Trump opposes that. Today he said it would change "soon, very soon."

The governors put the shutdowns into effect, but they are also relying on federal funds and some federal rules to help them carry out out the closings and assistance to people in isolation..

I expect that when the 2 weeks are up, Trump will announce that everyone not in a severely affected area should go back to work. He will use threats to the states, and "patriotism" to push people out of isolation and social distancing.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
32. I'm with you
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:41 AM
Mar 2020

this is going to take at least until July first to even think about any semblance of going back to normal. It's a good thing that all we will really need in that time is some medicines. As long as Express Scripts can keep sending us three month supplies of our pills, all I will have to get at a pharmacy is my diabetes medication, which needs to be refrigerated.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
33. Local restrictions here in Germany
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 06:29 AM
Mar 2020

So far, in effect until April 19, subject to constant review, of course.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
40. Some fat guy squattting in our house in Washington, DC disagrees.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

Thank heavens we follow the principle of States' Rights!

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