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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsNo words can describe this properly. How to wash your hands correctly. 😁😁
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secondwind
(16,903 posts)The lather is much thicker with the second wash. Its amazing!
Beartracks
(12,761 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)If you don't touch the towel till your hands are washed, it shouldn't be dirty, just gets wet.
at140
(6,110 posts)she did not handle the small hand towel before washing hands. The video is inconclusive in that regard.
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)If she handles the towel beforehand, then all bets are off lol
at140
(6,110 posts)it was very civilized, without anger issues and lacked profanity.
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)TomSlick
(11,033 posts)my body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant that when I pee, it cleans the toilet.
forgotmylogin
(7,496 posts)Speaking of - did you know you can stretch your dish soap and hand soap by watering it down? I keep dish detergent (which is concentrated) in a trigger spray bottle mixed with water, and my antibacterial hand soap similarly watered down in a foaming dispenser bottle. You can get foamer bottles empty on Amazon, or buy some foaming hand soap and refill it with your own diluted liquid soap.
TomSlick
(11,033 posts)I have a theory - unsupported by any evidence of which I am aware - that the best thing for hand washing is Dawn dish detergent.
My theory goes like this:
(1) The virus is encapsulated in a layer of fat.
(2) To get virus off your hands and deactivate it (there is some debate whether a virus is really alive and can therefore be killed), is to dissolve the fat capsule.
(3) Dawn is used to clean animals caught in oil spills because is dissolves oil. That's why it is good for cleaning fatty pots and pans.
ERGO: Dawn is the best soap or detergent for getting rid of the virus.
I put Dawn in foaming pump bottles diluted by half with water for hand washing. They are in the bathrooms and kitchen - one beside each sink.
If you're interested in the question of whether a virus is alive - or if you just have time on your hands in isolation - see: [link:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/|.
at140
(6,110 posts)Instead of Dawn? Well actually I even was on a crowded cruise ship for 5 full days and nights during last week of February, and have been to grocery stores several times since then, and to hospital twice with wife for her chemo treatment, and both of us are still have no symptoms, no cough, no weakness etc.
And all we use is that much cheaper dish washing fluid from dollar store.
TomSlick
(11,033 posts)I have no evidence that Dawn is better with breaking down the protein capsule around the virus other than Dawn is known to be good with causing oil and fat to separate and break down. I have found Dawn to be effective in removing oil from the driveway, and pre-treating fatty stains (like from meat) on clothes. We've all seen the commercials showing Dawn being use to clean animals coated in oil from spills. I think separating and breaking down oil and fats is kinda Dawn's thing.
We're southerners and pretty much live out of a skillet. We always keep Dawn in the house. And no, we don't own stock in P&G.
Everything I've read says the trick is to wash your hands compulsively and thoroughly. Again, everything I've read seems to say the important thing is to use soap or detergent and hot water. I've seen nothing to suggest that soap is better than detergent or vice versa - much less that one detergent or soap is better than another.
As I said, my theory is unsupported by any evidence of which I am aware. However, it makes sense to me. So, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that's the plan I'm working.
Stay safe, stay home, stay well.
forgotmylogin
(7,496 posts)The off-brands likely work just fine but just may not be as concentrated as name-brand. They are likely already thinned down with water somewhat to be cheaper but are likely the same ingredients.
My only complaint about certain dollar-aisle soaps (and it's subjective personal preference) is sometimes the scent might be more chemical-y and not be something you want to use on your skin.
at140
(6,110 posts)You could not be more right about that. There usually are not many active covid-19 infected people coughing in your face.
So a mask is not all that useful. The most common method of covid-19 transmission is the virus cells deposited to every item the infected (especially the asymptomatic ones) have touched. It could be door knobs in public places, sink faucet in rest rooms, produce handled (average lettuce buyer will examine 3 lettuce heads before picking one), handles of shopping carts, gas station pump handle, etc etc.
The good news is the covid-19 virus can NOT penetrate the tough skin on your palm and fingers. But touch your nose, eyes, mouth or hold your penis to pee with unwashed hand, and the virus has easy path inside your body. SO WASH HANDS WITH SOAP before touching FACE or your penis.
TomSlick
(11,033 posts)I was wearing my mask. About half of the customers were wearing masks. Very few of the associates/employees were wearing masks.
Even with the limitation on the number of people allowed in, I still had to walk uncomfortably close to a lot of folks not wearing masks. I'm afraid I saw each of them as walking petri dishes (there is a mini-outbreak in this rural county). Local officials are dealing the keeping large groups from gathering - parties, groups in the parks (causing the parks to be closed), etc.
Masks provide some protection to the wearer - they're better than nothing. Actually, I've constructed a mask that uses cone-shaped coffee filters as additional filtering material. I've determined that I cannot smell even strong odors through the mask, so it's filtering reasonably well.
The real benefit of masks is to protect everyone else from the wearer. At this point, we're all responsible to protect the rest of society.
My theory is that if someone is not wearing a mask at this point, they are Faux News watching, Covid-deniers. There are very few Trumpsters in these parts still wearing MAGA caps but the same folks are now walking around without masks. I assume that anyone in Walmart without a mask is not only a likely Covid carrier but also a concealed weapon carrier. Such people should be given a wide berth.
at140
(6,110 posts)Unless your mask is certified for surgical use, the openings in mask material are 100 times larger than size of covid-19 virus cell.
What masks do is IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND COUGHING, the mask helps PREVENT spread of your infection to others. So wearing a mask is showing respect for others. Also keep in mind, if airborne virus is present, it will easily enter through eyes and even ears, with a mask on.
DO not worry, chances of your getting infected by casually passing another person are very small.
But if you hear anyone coughing in the store, IMMEDIATELY abandon your shopping cart and leave the store ASAP.
I am 80 years old, been to grocery stores a dozen times since March 1st, do not wear a mask because it itches and makes me touch face.
I also drive my stage-4 cancer wife to cancer clinic every 3 weeks for chemo and I sit in with her with the doctor.
So my most important thing is to NEVER TOUCH FACE without washing hands with soap. Both of us practiced hand washing during our cruise on a crowded ship during last week of February. None of us had masks and we saw no one on ship wearing masks. And my wife tested negative at the cancer clinic and I am assuming I must be negative as well because if I was positive, she would have become positive as well. Both of us have no symptoms.
Stay safe wherever you are by NOT TOUCHING FACE.
TomSlick
(11,033 posts)Where we disagree somewhat is that while I agree that a cloth mask provides little protection to the wearer, the fact that I cannot smell strong odors through the coffee filter insert suggests that it is providing significant air filtration. At a minimum, it's much better than nothing.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,059 posts)Iggo
(47,487 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,059 posts)I so very happy when I "found" them.