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Duppers

(28,117 posts)
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:15 AM Mar 2021

Have you ever tried pot?

In any of its forms, at any age?

Asking due to news that Biden administration is firing new hires who have used marijuana. And not just current users, which would be prudent, but *past* users too!

Story here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-white-house-sandbags-staffers-sidelines-dozens-for-pot-use

I have a few friends and a hubby who have never tried it.


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Have you ever tried pot? (Original Post) Duppers Mar 2021 OP
Every which way. no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #1
Uh, potato? Duppers Mar 2021 #3
Makes a great pipe in a pinch. Lochloosa Mar 2021 #11
While I chose "yes"... PJMcK Mar 2021 #2
It's the only thing I've found that keeps my migraines at bay. n/t femmedem Mar 2021 #4
That's a common cure, I've heard. Duppers Mar 2021 #5
Me, too. femmedem Mar 2021 #27
Excellent! Duppers Mar 2021 #32
I'm guessing he wants sober minded people working for him. Omnipresent Mar 2021 #6
So they can't drink, either. marble falls Mar 2021 #19
He doesn't want them stoned or intoxicated Omnipresent Mar 2021 #24
A person is much less likely to have any sort of "hangover" or residual effect from cannabis. Treefrog Mar 2021 #40
as does every employer; elleng Mar 2021 #38
Massive quantities, daily. 5X Mar 2021 #7
😁 Duppers Mar 2021 #16
Nope. Never. No desire to whatsoever. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2021 #8
Mushrooms. My favorite hallucinogenic. Lochloosa Mar 2021 #12
datura is a weed that grows around here but it can be dangerous I don't recommend it, Kali Mar 2021 #43
It is a legal substance where I live. GumboYaYa Mar 2021 #9
That the truth! Duppers Mar 2021 #15
Many years ago, and I was like Bill Clinton about it. Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #10
not directly. by choice. smells awful. boss + man i was traveling w/ in addition to others. pansypoo53219 Mar 2021 #13
Three times in my 30's, and on each occasion, I puked. Croney Mar 2021 #14
For 49 years now, padfun Mar 2021 #17
That's bs. bluedigger Mar 2021 #18
Admitting it helps. My wife joined CIA in the late 60's, when she was asked if she ... marble falls Mar 2021 #22
tried it , dont care for it. AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #20
Many Federal jobs require drug tests Submariner Mar 2021 #21
I understand that they must not be current users. Duppers Mar 2021 #26
Yes, I've tried it Leith Mar 2021 #23
It is very effective for migraines and chronic insomnia ms liberty Mar 2021 #25
Marijuana is a wonder drug in so many ways! Duppers Mar 2021 #30
Yea, that is the problem with my state ms liberty Mar 2021 #33
Honestly, I find it very difficult to believe most who deny trying it--over a certain age... hlthe2b Mar 2021 #28
My DH refuses to try it. Duppers Mar 2021 #31
Lol. My fast driving causes my hubby ms liberty Mar 2021 #34
I'll have a couple hits after breakfast and go out and walk about three miles pretty much brewens Mar 2021 #29
Nope, never done it ironflange Mar 2021 #35
never smoked, but recently tried some vegan gummies. not bad. (expensive) IcyPeas Mar 2021 #36
Nope, never Mr. Scorpio Mar 2021 #37
The first and only frogmarch Mar 2021 #39
smoking it as I reply to this thread JuJuChen Mar 2021 #41
Yes, I was pretty much a daily pot smoker the first 2 years after college. beaglelover Mar 2021 #42

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
3. Uh, potato?
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:24 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Fri Mar 19, 2021, 08:47 AM - Edit history (1)

😁

Except for potato (?), I've tried them all too. MJ saved my sanity at a dark time in my life.

Kids, we can never work in the Biden WH, even as staffers.



Duppers

(28,117 posts)
5. That's a common cure, I've heard.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:30 AM
Mar 2021

Well, more of a medication fix, than cure.

60 Minutes & other news programs have covered multiple medical uses for MJ.

I strongly disagree with Biden's policy here.

femmedem

(8,195 posts)
27. Me, too.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:26 AM
Mar 2021

I am a much better employee for anyone with a small amount of edibles (I never liked smoking anything) about an hour before bedtime. I can sleep, I'm not losing a day a week to a fourteen-hour migraine/puke fest. I would barely be employable without it, and I don't wake up impaired.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
32. Excellent!
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:14 AM
Mar 2021

Another case of the weed making life liveable, as is the case with those epileptic children. It has multiple uses, contrary to some opinions here.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
40. A person is much less likely to have any sort of "hangover" or residual effect from cannabis.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:54 PM
Mar 2021

Alcohol is very very different.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,131 posts)
8. Nope. Never. No desire to whatsoever.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:47 AM
Mar 2021

I mean, if that's your thing, that's fine. But it's just something that has no appeal to me.

I just find it gross, personally. Smells awful in smoking form. I absolutely can't stand that bong sound. If I were to have it in any form, I guess edibles would be the way I'd do it; but even then, I'd just be eating a brownie or cookie that I assume tastes more dry than regular brownies and cookies and I just can't get all that excited about it.

Even with it becoming more legal and accepted, I still haven't had any burning (pardon the pun) desire to try it.

Haven't bothered with any recreational drugs besides caffeine and alcohol, both of which I will admit I partake of on a regular (the former) to semi-regular (the latter) basis.

Probably the only recreational drug that actually interests me are hallucinogenics. Something that actually alters my state of consciousness and reality. I've always had a weird obsession about datura in particular, which I heard is rather harsh, but the accounts I've read are just fascinating. But it just seems like a pain in the ass in obtaining any of those sorts of drugs and then there are the potential after effects, so I really haven't felt the need to act on that desire.

So maybe I'm weird in that I have no desire to try pot. But whatever.

Lochloosa

(16,055 posts)
12. Mushrooms. My favorite hallucinogenic.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:55 AM
Mar 2021

You can mirodose...taking small doses over a long period if time or jump into the deep end and do a heavy dose.

Kali

(55,000 posts)
43. datura is a weed that grows around here but it can be dangerous I don't recommend it,
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 01:59 AM
Mar 2021

there are better alternatives health and chemical-wise.

the pot on the market now will alter your consciousness, trust me. some of the concentrates and edibles are REALLY strong. it ain't your mamma's dirt weed no more

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
10. Many years ago, and I was like Bill Clinton about it.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:50 AM
Mar 2021

I just didn't like it very much, even when my young friends kept sharing other types of weed with me... like it was sooo important to them that I smoke it too!

Edit: LSD was my only pleasant drug experience, tbh. Some of those young friends got their hands on that too. My pupils were HUGE after I did it, making me look like an alien with all-black eyes or something. The other guys thought it was amazing and so hilarious. Anyway, I was probably lucky and had a very good "trip". It was one of the happiest feelings in my entire life.

pansypoo53219

(20,948 posts)
13. not directly. by choice. smells awful. boss + man i was traveling w/ in addition to others.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 07:58 AM
Mar 2021

i tried to avoid it, certainly felt nothing.

Croney

(4,656 posts)
14. Three times in my 30's, and on each occasion, I puked.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 08:05 AM
Mar 2021

I wanted to like it, but it did not like me. I might try a small edible if it is offered but I can't see that ever happening.

marble falls

(56,956 posts)
22. Admitting it helps. My wife joined CIA in the late 60's, when she was asked if she ...
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 09:49 AM
Mar 2021

... "had ever used drugs" said, "No." The interviewer turned off the polygraph and said, "you're in college, there are drugs everywhere - if you used them, be truthful." And she said, "I have never used drugs, drank alcohol, or smoked tobacco."

She became a C-11 while with CIA. Her only bad habit was me. She still has never used drugs or used tobacco. She learned social drinking in CIA. But, I've never seen her past a mild buzz in all our years.

I've smoked pot since high school and I got my 'secret' clearance in the NAVY, never was poly'd or pee tested in my life. She has no problem with my pot use - it is the best pain reliever ever for me. I've used verrrry little of the opiates I've been prescribed. I hate opiates.

Her attitude really changed when our son came back from Iraq with PTSD and had a very rough two years after he got out (four year hitch with an additional year in on "Stop Loss&quot .

He was anti-pot but drinking large with subsequent bad interactions with the local constabulary. When he finally got into VA, a tough haul, one of his councillors rec'd pot.

The difference was night and day and immediate. And now more than eight years later he's doing great.

Submariner

(12,495 posts)
21. Many Federal jobs require drug tests
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 09:36 AM
Mar 2021

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission requires nuclear power plant operators to pass a drug test. Most of those operators come from the nuclear Navy where they are used to drug tests.

If employees in the ranks of the military, NRC, EPA, NOAA, etc. are supervised by Executive Branch decree, then it looks more logical to prevent the White House staff from indulging, when their "employees" have to abstain to keep their jobs.

I believe until the weed is removed from the Schedule 1 narcotics list, this kind of firing or not hiring has a basis for justification.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
26. I understand that they must not be current users.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:20 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:56 AM - Edit history (2)

But Biden is firing former users!

Why should a legal drug (in some states) used a few yrs ago be held against them now? Or even if their pot use was illegal many yrs ago, why use that as a criteria to fire them? It does not affect their current skills.


We can name a few U.S. Presidents who have smoked pot.
Fun fact: Jimmy Carter's son smoked weed with Willie Nelson in the WH!


ms liberty

(8,545 posts)
25. It is very effective for migraines and chronic insomnia
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:17 AM
Mar 2021

I used it for years for those issues. I had to quit due to affordability and access issues. Then a few years later I went into early menopause due to chemotherapy for breast cancer. Horrible hot flashes and brain fog, as well as all the other menopausal symptoms. A friend visited and shared some with me, and while we were hanging out after I realized my hot flashes had stopped and I was a normal temperature again. And my brain was firing on all cylinders, although I was a bit silly. I was surprised but really thrilled, because I had tried medications and they either didn't help or I had reactions. Since the oncologists had told me I could conceivably have these symptoms for the rest of my life, I began using it. I still have terrible hot flashes. It still works, and now I have a routine that keeps enough of it in my system so that I can not have all these debilitating symptoms.
I saw a comment from someone very recently who called cannabis use a need to "deny reality." Obviously that person has never smoked or used cannabis, because that's not what it does. And someone above intimated that Biden wanted "sober people " but that's another bullshit trope...I could smoke/ingest cannabis all night tonite without a hangover in the morning, and go to work without any issue or chance of still being high. That is a key advantage cannabis has over alcohol. I don't like alcohol or the effects on me.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
30. Marijuana is a wonder drug in so many ways!
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:48 AM
Mar 2021

Glad you found a supplier & can now feel normal. And I like your "deny reality" comment - you're exactly right. I've had more true insights high than when I wasn't smoking.

I like both pot & alcohol, although I much prefer pot over any alcohol as a mood elevator & insomnia relief, I love the flavor of some wines & most beers. My only substance mood-elevator now is tequila but I have to drown it in OJ just to tolerate the taste.

The problem is my hubby is so old school, like Biden I suppose, that he objects to any pot even being in the house. Grrr. When I was a working girl in my 20s & he was still in grad school, I ignored his protests. I'll be glad when it's sold in shops without even needing a prescription.





ms liberty

(8,545 posts)
33. Yea, that is the problem with my state
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:37 AM
Mar 2021

It's decriminalized but not legal, so you get what you can get, and at an extortionate price. I want to live long enough to be able to walk into a shop and buy the strain I need rather than what is available.

hlthe2b

(102,073 posts)
28. Honestly, I find it very difficult to believe most who deny trying it--over a certain age...
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:31 AM
Mar 2021

especially if they went to college. Just like trying cigarettes or various types of alcohol or speeding, it hardly predicts repeated and certainly not long-term usage or behaviors.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
31. My DH refuses to try it.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:07 AM
Mar 2021

He's so old school, like Biden. And he doesn't speed & claims my fast driving gives him heart attacks.

brewens

(13,527 posts)
29. I'll have a couple hits after breakfast and go out and walk about three miles pretty much
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 10:43 AM
Mar 2021

every day. Nice start to the morning.

ironflange

(7,781 posts)
35. Nope, never done it
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

I've never had the desire, which is a little odd, because my sister was a bit of a pothead.

frogmarch

(12,152 posts)
39. The first and only
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:52 PM
Mar 2021

time I ever smoked a joint was on my birthday in 1977. My friend Peggy took me for a car ride and gave me my present - the joint. I smoked it and didn't experience anything from it. However, an hour later, I won the door prize at the December PTA meeting at my 6-year-old son's school, and I was so out of it, I fell down the auditorium stage steps with the door prize, which was a 3 lb. frozen turkey. At least I didn't get hurt.

beaglelover

(3,457 posts)
42. Yes, I was pretty much a daily pot smoker the first 2 years after college.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 05:48 PM
Mar 2021

Didn't start smoking pot until towards the end of my last semester in college. After college, moved to Hoboken and worked in NYC and my lover at the time had a sales job with no benefits other than the boss gave everyone an ounce of pot every Friday. Our apartment was definitely the most popular place on Friday nights!

I don't remember now why I stopped smoking it. I tried it again about 10 years ago and enjoyed it, but have never really had an inkling to take it up again even though it's legal now in CA. Maybe after I retire.......

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