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CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:07 PM Apr 2021

Where did we get the term "wrapped around the axle"?

A congressman from New York used the expression twice in describing the GOP's usage of "defund the police" in an interview with Joe Scarborough today. As usual Scar was trying to trap him into trying to defend that idea. My guess is that it is a Navy term (at least I've only heard it from a retired naval officer who was once my neighbor).

Am I right?

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CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
3. I really don't know. I never heard it growing up in Texas and haven't in New Haven where I live now.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

But I used to live in No. Virginia and had a neighborhood full of retired military officers and that's where I heard it.

gab13by13

(21,256 posts)
2. I know the significance,
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

When I was snow blowing deep snow in my yard and ran over some chicken wire that shouldn't have been in my yard, I had a heck of a time untangling the wire wrapped around my axle.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Originally it had to do with horse drawn wagons
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:13 PM
Apr 2021

Bad things happen if somehow your reigns or other pieces of the harness got caught in the wheels or axles. How it came to eventually mean to get caught up in unimportant details I don’t know.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
11. The guy I heard it from was in the Seabees, the construction battalion of engineers that were
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:45 PM
Apr 2021

historically significant in the U.S. for their amazing abilities to build airstrips in jungles on the islands we needed to take in order to win the war in the Pacific during WW2.

MiHale

(9,664 posts)
6. Here we go!...
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:15 PM
Apr 2021

Never heard it tho...


https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/54/messages/636.html

Wrapped around the axle" - a difficult situation from which to extract oneself. Is it the horses tail or the reins? What is the origin?

You have given a definition, which is by and large consistgent with what I've seen in searching this phrase. Let me show you what the Urban Dictionary has (these 2 definitions are not provided by lexicographers, but by citizen volunteers):

1. wrapped around the axle
...
To be extremey or overly upset.

"Jordan is wrapped around the axle because he has to sit on the bench during the game."
tags bothered annoyed mad anxious ticked off
...
2. wrapped around the axle
...
To be confused by something, to the point of paralysis. Imagine driving a car over a wire fence. The fence becomes wrapped around the axle, stopping the car.

This network problem has got me wrapped around the axle.
tags confused frustrated paralyzed paralysis by analysis fubar




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CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
13. The congressman used it in terms of getting all wrought up over something they want to keep
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:49 PM
Apr 2021

going as an issue such as "defund the police."

The naval officer I knew used it more like "don't get so upset about it."

How would you use it?

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
16. Exactly what he meant! He was angry that Joe Scarborough was keeping that talking point going.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:25 PM
Apr 2021

I wish Scarborough had dropped it. He kinda proved the congressman's point by continuing to harp on it.

trixie2

(905 posts)
12. Leonard and Sheldon TBBT?
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:45 PM
Apr 2021

Leonard asked Sheldon if he were not an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axle. Yep, Sheldon was screwed. Amy wanted him to meet her mother. Sheldon couldn't say, "Amy is my friend and a girl but not my girlfriend".

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
15. I never heard of it in my 72 years.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021

Clearly from what others have posted, it's a saying with a very limited range.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
19. Any mechanic would know intuitively. Similar to FUBAR.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:45 PM
Apr 2021

A loose rag or even a iron bar can get wrapped around a axle & cause all sorts of damage. There are joints & gaps on the front / rear of a axle that can catch objects if the timing is just right. Even a rag can cause a fire or throw a bearing out.

I've heard it from way back but can't pin a source.

Kali

(55,003 posts)
20. I don't know but it is good metaphor
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:57 PM
Apr 2021

Having had fence wire wrapped around an axle in a vehicle more than once in my life I can tell you it sure does slow you down and cause a lot of noise and ruckus.

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