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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:07 AM Jul 2021

Happy 4th July to all my friends across the pond!

Although I will always maintain that we Brits actually won the war, have a lovely day.
I mean you got all our religious right cray cray nuts in engage for freedom and you all have had to live with that ever since… RESULT for the Bits. Yay! LOLOLOLOL
Have a great day chaps, chapettes and everyone in between 😊



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Happy 4th July to all my friends across the pond! (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2021 OP
Thanks Soph! FalloutShelter Jul 2021 #1
Take me back! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #2
I'm sure General Howe Cosmo Blues Jul 2021 #3
Thanks, I think. I'm not sure if me and my blood cousins in Sussex would agree on who won what, abqtommy Jul 2021 #4
Thank you so much for the well wishes CanonRay Jul 2021 #5
You sent your criminals to Australia, and your religious fanatics to North America. Aristus Jul 2021 #6

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
2. Take me back!
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

ONE of my ancestors was a British Loyalist who counterfeited Virginia currency to devalue it, stole rebel-owned horses, transported military messages to British allies among Native American tribes, etc. All of it happening in his 60's, after a seemingly quiet and respectful earlier life in Rhode Island.

http://www.penjaccphoto.com/penleyged/nti02939.htm
FRANCIS HOPKINS was a counterfeiter and, at the May term of the County Court in the year 1778, he was tried by the court on suspicion of his having counterfeited, erased and altered sundry treasury notes; the currency of this Commonwealth, knowing the same to be bad. He was found guilty, fined fifty dollars lawful money of Virginia, sentenced to six months in prison, and was ordered to be confined within the walls of the Fort at William Cocke's (now C.L. Clyce's), on Renfro's Creek, alias Spring creek, until the county goal was completed. He was conveyed to Cocke's Fort, but, within a short time thereafter, made his escape and began a series of very bold and daring depredations upon the Whig settlers of the county. He organized a band of Tories, whose occupation was to steal the horses of the settlers and intimidate the citizens whenever possible. He went so far as to post notices at and near the home of Colonel William Campbell, warning him that if he did not desist from his prosecution of the loyal adherents of George III, a terrible calamity would befall him, either in the loss of his property or his life.

"On a quiet and beautiful Sabbath in the spring time of the year 1780, General Campbell accompanied by his wife (who was a sister of Patrick Henry), and several of their neighbors, attended a religious service at a Presbyterian house of worship known as Ebbing Spring Church in the upper end of this county. As they were returning to their homes they happened to be conversing about the audacity of the Tory who had been so bold and defiant in his declarations and was suspected of having posted these notices above referred to. Just as they arrived at the top of a hill, a short distance west of the present residence of Colonel Hiram A. Greever, they observed a man on horseback on the opposite hill, coming towards them. General Campbell was riding beside his wife, with an infant on before him. One of them remarked that the individual meeting them was the Tory of whom they had been speaking, probably now on a horse-stealing expedition, as he was observed to be carrying a rope halter in his hand. Hearing this, Colonel Campbell, without halting, handed the infant over to its mother and dashed out in front. Seeing the movement and recognizing the man whom he so much feared and hated, the Tory wheeled his horse and started back at quite a rapid gait, pursued at full speed by Colonel Campbell and one of the gentlemen of the company, whose name was Thompson. Never, it may be presumed, either before or since, has such a dashing and exciting race been witnessed upon that long level between the residences of Colonels Greever and Beattie. As they reached the branch at the base of the hill a little west of Colonel Beattie's, Colonel Campbell dashed up alongside the fleeing Tory, who, seeing that he would be caught, turned short to the right down the bank and plunged into the river. As he struck the water, Colonel Campbell, who had left his companion in the rear, leaped in beside him, grasped the Tory's holsters and threw them into the stream, and then dragged him from his horse into the water.

At this moment Mr. Thompson rode up. They took their prisoner out on the bank and held what may be termed a drum-head court. The Tory, who, bad as he was, had the virtue to being a brave, candid man, at once acknowledged the truth of the charge preferred against him and boldly declared his defiance and determination to take horses wherever he could find them. But he was mistaken in his man, for in less than ten minutes he was dangling from the limb of a large sycamore that stood upon the bank of the river, the stump of which was to be seen a few years ago, and may be there yet for aught the writer knows"

Source: Draper's Manuscripts pages 385/387
Hopkins was the stronger of the two and was almost drowning Campbell. When Edmiston and several other men came to help. By this assistance, Hopkins was subdued and taken to the bank. All knew of Hopkins desperate character, the men knew that there was no jail in which he could be secured. They held a consultation and decided that they would hang him and did so forthwith, by sticking his neck into the fork of a leaning sycamore tree which bent over the river.




I had at least 14 "patriot ancestors" too, but never mind them.

The USA Christo-fascists are too intolerable now.

Cosmo Blues

(2,465 posts)
3. I'm sure General Howe
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:21 AM
Jul 2021

Appreciate your revisionist history most Americans might have wished the British had won, had you not been making your own egregious choices during the last 4 years. As a chap thank you for your well wishes, and I wish you better days ahead

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. Thanks, I think. I'm not sure if me and my blood cousins in Sussex would agree on who won what,
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jul 2021

but I'd sure like to return some of our crazies to your shore. We're overstocked with them here.

CanonRay

(14,080 posts)
5. Thank you so much for the well wishes
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

and I hope come next July 4th we are still a Republic. We missed our chance to get rid of the crazies in 1865. Best wishes to all of you as you struggle with your own nut cases!

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
6. You sent your criminals to Australia, and your religious fanatics to North America.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jul 2021

I think Australia got the better of the deal...

No hard feelings, though.

We love you guys over there.

And any time you want your religious lunatics back, you can have 'em...

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