Trying to work it out so I can stay here.

[Mrs. Claw]

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I appreciate those who treat me as friends.

[tblue37]

1. Some people are just mean.

[Jim G.]

6. I Don't Think I'm Too Mean...

But this one removed the questionable GoFundMe link in their signature, so...

[Mrs. Claw]

7. I am not "This one"

my husband has been battling cancer what kind of person are you? There is nothing questionable about that link.

[Jim G.]

11. I Could Bullet Point Everything That's Questionable About It For You...

But what's the point? Many here now know what's up.

[Ocelot II]

2. Just ignore them.

[Mrs. Claw]

5. I'm bawling my eyes out.

I have been trying to get subscribers and donations all day, and NOT here, while Todd is sick and hardly anyone cares and I have to tell him he can't schedule his needed surgery. I don't need this from this guy.

So called close friends just ghost you, and make excuses. It's all too much.

[Kali]

3. you have been told that people would be suspicious

I told you that. first OP was a hit for money. most here get to know people first. are known by the members for YEARS. whining about something you were warned about and should know anyway is more evidence you are probably just here to disrupt.

go ahead and alert on me again, you aren't the first. yet I remain a member and the folks I got into "trouble" with are gone.

[Mrs. Claw]

8. Maybe if you actually asked someone

instead of just casting aspersions you would learn that Rule of Claw was here before, and has an established reputation in the progressive community, and that many many people know his situation is dire, and legitimate.

[Jim G.]

9. We Are Both Fully Aware Of "Rule of Law" & Why They Were Banned

[Kali]

10. I know he was here before and that he was banned.

that is actually irrelevant to what I was trying to tell you. you barged in and hit good people up for money right off the bat. sorry that is just suspicious. it just is.

there are rules about spamming this place and you were walking the line on that. now you are basically doing a bunch of deletes and possibly a GBCW attention grab here with this thread. not doing your claimed cause any good.

and for posterity

Why Should I Stay Here To Take Abuse?
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2776302

My husband has been fighting cancer since February of 2020. Does he want to see medical records? You want me to upload them?

Who talks to someone like that? Certainly not a real progressive.

[Jim G.]

14. The Thing About The Internet Is - Even When You Delete Something It's Never Gone

[jpak]

12. It's casting asparagus

Just sayin

[canetoad]

4. Because there's money in it?

[RockRaven]

13. If you have a problem with a post you think is inappropriate, report it for moderation...

And if it doesn't get taken down, then that is that. The jury has spoken. What do you want everyone else to do about that post? Are you fishing for someone to give you a second bite at that reporting apple? Or did you never report it yourself in the first place? What is the purpose of this?

Interfering with forum moderation is also verboten, and this sort of OP is pretty much that, unless you never bothered to report it and you are just naively complaining. In which case your path forward is clear.

[LakeArenal]

15. "I'm not being mean"

If someone doesn’t want to help. Just don’t help. It’s that simple.

People love to insert their bias on things that really aren’t their business.

If one had to tell people one isn’t mean, then one probably was really mean.

[Kali]

16. this is a public discussion board

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people are here to post their opinions (biases) on a wide variety of topics. disruptive behavior IS the business of all members and especially MIRT.

some DUers have various experiences and knowledge that others don't. some are beautiful, kind, but perhaps slightly gullible. others are cynical and suspicious. some truly need assistance and support. some are trolls taking advantage. that is what MIRT and admins work hard to eliminate. determining that is sometimes more difficult than other times. giving the benefit of doubt is OK, and preferred.

new members can help themselves by observing and learning the culture here. taking a little time to get to know the way things actually work, getting to know people before flinging around a ton of drama and other disruption. patterns of behavior that get repeated are noticeable.

[LakeArenal]

17. Exactly and I gave my opinion.

It’s a discussion board.
The poster new or not asked for help.
One could just ignore the request, or comment that is open for discussion.

If it’s up to MIRT to decide, why are others here having an opinion.

Whether the request is legitimate or not, alert and let the jury to decide.

[Kali]

18. as did I, and the "mean" poster as well

posting in public doesn't guarantee only replies one would like to receive. people make decisions, judgements, and comments based on observed behavior. anybody here is allowed to respond or not. even people that are maybe not so nice, as long as they are civil. and as you said, letting a jury decide on the merits of individual posts is how that is determined.

[LakeArenal]

22. So why are you coming back at me?

I’m not disagreeing with you at all.

You don’t like anything then alert on it.

[Mrs. Claw]

19. I actually do want contribute here so I pulled the link.

Because it seems few will believe I intend to be a good member here if it stays up. He's just running out of time and I was trying to get help. If anybody wants to learn more about his situation I am glad to answer any questions so just message me. Kali and Jim G. i am sorry we got off to a wrong foot because i did not understand the culture here. I won't ask for anymore help.

[Kali]

20. yeah

it is permissible to have the link in your sig line, in fact it is actually not against any rules to ask for help. the issue is more about timing and presentation.

and the drama.

attention seeking gets attention.

[Mrs. Claw]

21. The issue was Todd

had to get some diagnostics done with high co-pays. It was urgent and I panicked. I apologize.

[LakeArenal]

23. I understand you perfectly.

Timing for you is precious.

Not so much for others

If folks don’t want to contribute it’s up to them

I’m not sure knowing the”culture” here is even a thing.

[Mrs. Claw]

24. I respect Kali and Jim trying to

protect the community here. I understand better why they took the position they did. It's over now. We will move on.

[LakeArenal]

25. Hmmmm.

[Mrs. Claw]

26. I just don't want to be banned.

My spirit needs a place I can talk. I don't have much family left and friends have kind of abandoned us. So I just need some friendly chat. I appreciate your concern and understanding for our situation.

[Piasladic]

27. You haven't done anything to get yourself banned for.

I know. I've been watching.

[Ocelot II]

29. You're OK.

[elleng]

28. Please do.

Haven't seen any meanness (I have little patience,) but we're here to communicate.

My osprey 'gift' for the afternoon: