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frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:55 AM Jul 2022

When I meet someone for the first time

and want to remember their name, or I hear a name or a word on TV I want to remember, I "write" the name or the word in the air with my pointer finger. To avoid making a production of it in front of other people, I can do it by barely moving my finger, or with an upside down (or pointing upward) finger held behind me. Later, if I can't recall the name or the word outright, I can close my eyes, position my finger, and let it do the remembering.

I've done this kind of invisible writing since I was around 10. I don't think it's tactile memory, because it doesn't involve touch. I remember the motion, the path my finger took.

Anyone else do this this? Please, someone, say yes.

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When I meet someone for the first time (Original Post) frogmarch Jul 2022 OP
No, but I'm going to try it. silverweb Jul 2022 #1
I hope it works for you too. frogmarch Jul 2022 #10
Tactile Finger Writing Memory Skills (?) wyn borkins Jul 2022 #2
Wow, I think that's it! frogmarch Jul 2022 #9
Whatever works, works. No apologies if what works for you is different from anyone else's. eppur_se_muova Jul 2022 #3
Now that you mention it, frogmarch Jul 2022 #12
Something that occurred to me only later -- I often TYPE words in the air ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2022 #14
I'd say it's very similar. frogmarch Jul 2022 #20
Interesting. Will give it a try too. IcyPeas Jul 2022 #4
I hope it works for you frogmarch Jul 2022 #13
I'm jealous markie Jul 2022 #5
My "trick" is... ret5hd Jul 2022 #8
Whatever works! :) frogmarch Jul 2022 #17
Hey brother. ret5hd Jul 2022 #27
I'm a sister, but hey back. :) frogmarch Jul 2022 #28
:) frogmarch Jul 2022 #15
Nothing wrong with that. frogmarch Jul 2022 #21
Cool! I'm trying this! Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #6
Good luck! frogmarch Jul 2022 #16
That is really interesting. sl8 Jul 2022 #7
Yes, I think it's related. frogmarch Jul 2022 #18
There have been studies that show taking notes by hand rather than on a laptop aids in tblue37 Jul 2022 #26
Some years ago, a girl won the national spelling bee with this trick. lastlib Jul 2022 #11
Wow, really? frogmarch Jul 2022 #19
She was from Olathe, Kansas.... lastlib Jul 2022 #23
My mother told me I did that a lot when I was a little kid, still learning to read. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #22
That's so neat you finger-wrote frogmarch Jul 2022 #24
Muscle memory. tblue37 Jul 2022 #25
I think you nailed it. frogmarch Jul 2022 #33
I don't do it, But I'm going to try it! LuckyCharms Jul 2022 #29
Hey, I'm going to try it! frogmarch Jul 2022 #30
That beats my approach. When I meet someone new... NNadir Jul 2022 #31
haha! frogmarch Jul 2022 #32
I was learning State Capitals and to this day hairy peter is Emile Jul 2022 #34
I love it! frogmarch Jul 2022 #35
I'm bad with names also. For me repetition is reinforcement. I will repeat the name during mitch96 Jul 2022 #36
I hadn't thought of doing that. frogmarch Jul 2022 #37

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
1. No, but I'm going to try it.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:07 AM
Jul 2022

It sounds like a very good technique for remembering names and I've always been terrible with names. If taking notes enhances retention because you're using eye-hand coordination as well as listening to learn, why shouldn't your "invisible writing" achieve a similar goal? I wouldn't consider it weird or scary, just a unique memory method.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
10. I hope it works for you too.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jul 2022

Remembering names outright has always been hard for me too, so finger writing comes in handy sometimes.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
2. Tactile Finger Writing Memory Skills (?)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:26 AM
Jul 2022

No; however, I searched and found this (sort of related) article from 2019:

Writing In The Air: Facilitative Effects of Finger Writing

So there must be something interesting there...

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
9. Wow, I think that's it!
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jul 2022

I don't recall ever hearing about kusho before, but as an Army brat, I lived with my family in Japan from the time I was 3 until I was 7. I wonder if I picked it up then. I remember a lot about my childhood, but I don't remember that, and anyway, I think I was 10 or so when I began finger writing. Still...

Thanks for the article.

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
3. Whatever works, works. No apologies if what works for you is different from anyone else's.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:37 AM
Jul 2022

Each of us has different cognitive strengths -- some have strong numerical sense, some a strong sense of location, or shape, or sound -- exploit what you have. Don't feel bad, or even be surprised, if what works well for someone else doesn't work for you.

I have read a little about people with exceptional faculties for memory, innate or acquired by training, and the techniques they describe just wouldn't work for a lot of people. In fact, they often sound quite alien to common experience. That doesn't invalidate their methods, or suggest there's something wrong with other people, either. People are just -- different.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
12. Now that you mention it,
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jul 2022

I've heard of people who have unusual abilities such as you described. Next to some of them, I realize that finger writing is not a big deal. Whew.

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
14. Something that occurred to me only later -- I often TYPE words in the air ...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jul 2022

I started doing this for keyboard practice, but occasionally I find myself doing it for no particular reason, except that the word is unfamiliar. Probably a similar thing.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
8. My "trick" is...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:09 AM
Jul 2022

(I have terrible “name” memory, excellent “face” memory)

…i just call everyone “brother”…”hey brother! How’s it going?…”

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
15. :)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jul 2022

I must admit that sometimes I misspell a name or can't read my finger writing, and think a person's name is Fjbmv or something.

sl8

(13,736 posts)
7. That is really interesting.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:28 AM
Jul 2022

The only thing I've personally noticed that might be related, is that copying or transcribing notes or other material seems to help me to remember more than just reading the material.

I searched for more information on using proprioception* as a memory aid, but didn't find very much.

This seems related:
https://www.unf.edu/publicrelations/media_relations/press/2015/UNF_Researchers_Reveal_Climbing_a_Tree_Can_Improve_Cognitive_Skills.aspx
UNF Researchers Reveal Climbing a Tree Can Improve Cognitive Skills

Thanks for posting.


*From Wikipedia:


Proprioception (/ˌproʊprioʊˈsɛpʃən, -priə-/[1][2] PROH-pree-o-SEP-shən), also referred to as kinaesthesia (or kinesthesia), is the sense of self-movement, force, and body position.[3][4] It is sometimes described as the "sixth sense".[5]

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
18. Yes, I think it's related.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jul 2022

I'd never thought much about being aware, even without realizing it, of my body position, but I can see how it might pertain to finger writing. Thanks for the link!

I am learning a lot here.

tblue37

(65,328 posts)
26. There have been studies that show taking notes by hand rather than on a laptop aids in
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:12 PM
Jul 2022

both understanding & remembering the material. I always informed my college students of this, since most of them were accustomed to taking notes only on their laptops.

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
23. She was from Olathe, Kansas....
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jul 2022

Her name was Kavya Shivashankar, 2009 spelling bee champion. Her sister, Vanya Shivashankar, won it in 2015.

Interestingly, her father (his name eludes me) won an inter-company team spelling competition for a literacy charity in Kansas City in 2009. I was on the team that placed fifth in that competition.

Ocelot II

(115,674 posts)
22. My mother told me I did that a lot when I was a little kid, still learning to read.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jul 2022

I don't remember it but maybe it helped; I was reading pretty well before I got to kindergarten. Maybe I'll take it up again, the name thing might work for me, too.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
24. That's so neat you finger-wrote
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jul 2022

when you were little.

You've given me an idea for an air-writing game my 6-year-old great-grandson and I can play while sitting next to each other: Guess the Air Word.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
29. I don't do it, But I'm going to try it!
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jul 2022

I sometimes go through absurd mental gymnastics in order to not forget someone's name.

Example: I get introduced to someone named "Michelle".

I'll shake Michelle's hand and say "My pleasure to meet you, Michelle".

Then my mind is off to the races.

Michelle
Shelly
Sea shell
Cape May, NJ
Picking up a shell on the beach at Cape May NJ
Cape May
Beach
Shell
Shelly
Michelle

The more convoluted I make it, the easier I remember it for some reason.

So if I meet her again, I'll think "Cape May NJ", go through that whole process in my head, and remember "Michelle".

I think I actually read about this technique somewhere, adopted it, and it seems to work for me.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
31. That beats my approach. When I meet someone new...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jul 2022

...I pull out a tattoo needle and try to tattoo their name on their forehead.

Often they resist.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
36. I'm bad with names also. For me repetition is reinforcement. I will repeat the name during
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jul 2022

the conversation a few times and then associate the name with something about the person.
I have a real crap memory. I'm amazed I made it thru school..
So I meet a guy named Fred.
Hello Fred nice to meet you. So tell me, Fred what do you do for a living?
Fred, that's so cool! have you been doing that for a long time?
Living up north must suck in the winter, eh Fred?
I just try to keep sticking the name in the conversation as many times as I can.
Then if "Fred" has something "Red" that would be a bonus.. Like a ruddy complexion.
Works for me but ONLY if I remember to do it.
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frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
37. I hadn't thought of doing that.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jul 2022

Associating the name with something about them is a good idea! I wonder if I am clever enough to do that. Nah, probably not, but still a good idea for a lot of other people.

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