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I'm just going to list the top 25 here because exhaustion/laziness!
Three of the top four are actually on my list, but in a different order for me (Breaking Bad is #1, Sopranos #2 and The Wire #3).
But I disagree with MASH at #25. Too low! There are a bunch of shows ranked ahead of it that are not better, IMO. I've never even heard of #5 (Fleabag???) And Succession at #11? Don't even get me started (overrated!!).
What are your quibbles with this list?
1. The Sopranos
2. The Simpsons
3. 'Breaking Bad'
4 'The Wire'
5. 'Fleabag'
6. Seinfeld
7. Mad Men
8. Cheers
9. Atlanta
10. The Mary Tyler Moore Show
11. Succession
12. The Twilight Zone
13. Veep
14. The Americans
15. The Larry Sanders Show
16. Twin Peaks
17. The Leftovers
18. Saturday Night Live
19. I May Destroy You
20. 30 Rock
21. All in the Family'
22. Star Trek
23. Watchmen
24. Freaks and Geeks
25. M*A*S*H
Full results here:
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-lists/best-tv-shows-of-all-time-1234598313/
callous taoboy
(4,584 posts)but I wish they had included "Barney Miller" and "WKRP." So much great, understated humor in those two.
intrepidity
(7,290 posts)Since I agree with most of the list--meaning the ones I've seen--I now have a good resource to find the ones I missed. There are a few on that list I hadn't heard of, so buried treasure.
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)... Rolling Stone likes to be hip, cool, edgy, dope... daddy-0. Nice to see I Love Lucy is still worthy of their Top 40... on its way out of their Hot 100, tho...
Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)And behind Freaks and Geeks. That alone disqualifies this list. But I do agree with #1.
hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)Ridiculous
Fleabag was Amazon's "star original comedy," but I stopped watching early in when they crudely killed the family dog and tossed it in the trash for pick-up. Some things are unforgivable and frankly, I hold it against the lead actors too who are now unwatchable to me.
Coventina
(27,093 posts)They are the ones who need to be dumped in the trash.
1 1/2 Fleabags and realized it was very crude. I don't think I even made it to the dog, but what you say doesn't surprise me a bit. I have no idea why people think that show is so great.
underpants
(182,739 posts)I thought there was a precipitous drop in Succession after the first season.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)let alone the entire first season! Just too much cut-throat behavior and a cast that we didn't care about. Maybe that's exactly what the script writers intended, but it sure made it hard to care and stick with it.
hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)Nor, in my mind should be about half (or more) on that list.
underpants
(182,739 posts)The writing took an odd turn from my perspective. My wife moved on to other shows so I lost track of it.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)But I still watch. West Wing was a top ten. I thought Mad Men should be number one.
Upthevibe
(8,034 posts)I completely agree with you about Succession. I don't watch it anymore
multigraincracker
(32,663 posts)Ive never seen. Back in the 90s I went years without owning a tv.
spooky3
(34,430 posts)Were great shows. Still running in syndication.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)I thought I heard something about that show making a comeback?
hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)The actor who played his father (John Mahoney) is deceased, of course, and would be greatly missed. I do hope if he brings it back that Niles (David Hyde Pierce) returns--one of the best physical comedic actors ever in an episode I still remember where he ends up setting the apartment on fire just trying to iron his shirt. He's been doing a lot of theater so I've heard that he's not anxious to return to the role.
underpants
(182,739 posts)Pretty good.
Upthevibe
(8,034 posts)I absolutely agree with you about that particular episode!
That was comedy gold when Niles was trying to iron his shirt (and I've never been a regular Frasier watcher).
True Dough
(17,301 posts)never live up to the original. If this does get off the ground again, I hope it's not a disappointment. It was a good run!
True Dough
(17,301 posts)hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)Especially if the original series regulars make guest appearances.
Kelsey Grammar is one of those performers who I will enjoy watching even though I know he's a hardcore Republican. I don't know to what extent, though (and choose not to, vis-a-vis Trump support).
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True Dough
(17,301 posts)Now that you mention it, I recall hearing once about Grammer's right-wing views, but I'd forgotten as it was years ago. At least he's not the type constantly making headlines by barking about this or that politically.
Not sure if I'll watch the Frasier reboot. Just don't catch as much TV as I used to. Maybe if it's streaming someday.
hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)a kennedy
(29,644 posts)doc03
(35,324 posts)really?
Elessar Zappa
(13,952 posts)The first ten seasons is some of the most brilliant television ever produced.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)And some of them I only saw on reruns.
Botany
(70,483 posts)One of the best moments on TV ever had the actress Peg Phillips dancing on her grave.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Botany
(70,483 posts)Northern Exposure is an American Northern comedy-drama television series about the eccentric residents of a fictional small town in Alaska that ran on CBS from July 12, 1990, to July 26, 1995, with a total of 110 episodes. It received 57 award nominations during its five-year run and won 27, including the 1992 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series, two additional Primetime Emmy Awards, four Creative Arts Emmy Awards, and two Golden Globes.[1] Critic John Leonard called Northern Exposure "the best of the best television in the past 10 years".
callous taoboy
(4,584 posts)Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)Upthevibe
(8,034 posts)I keep meaning to watch The Sopranos because it seems to end up at the top of most of these lists.
Breaking Bad is without question my #1 (but since I haven't seen The Sopranos that may change).
Lost is in my top five but I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)feels a bit dated even though it's only from the 1990s, but it's sooo good. It's worth the time invested.
I'm with you on BrBa -- #1 without question! For a while, I thought it was possible that Better Call Saul might overtake it, but it finished well short. I liked it, but not near as much as Walter White and Co.
Lost? I gave it a try but as soon as I realized there was some sort of dinosaur roaming around on the island, I bailed out. Not into fantasy/sci-fi.
SYFROYH
(34,165 posts)It's right up there with The Wire and Breaking Bad.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)But if you're comparing it to BrBa and The Wire, I will have to make some time for it someday.
SYFROYH
(34,165 posts)And these talents are used to open up human experiences just as Breaking Bad and The Wire did.
Elessar Zappa
(13,952 posts)in the top 30. Probably the top ten actually.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Although "West Wing" is a glaring omission.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)plus Dexter should be on, due to keeping showtime alive. To this day.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)Of did I miss it on the list?
Great list to have when looking for something new.
Thanks!
hlthe2b
(102,205 posts)Still the very best medical show. As one who knows the cyclical changes in medication protocols, especially anesthetic protocols, the show holds up. It had excellent expert consultants--who only rarely got things a bit wrong--usually in areas that were based on very specialized knowledge so most would not catch it. I still miss Anthony Edwards. What incredible guest stars the show had over the years, too.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,130 posts)The Simpsons is only that high because it refuses to die. Seasons 3 - 10 are great, and make it worthy of inclusion, but ranking it #2 is ridiculous.
The Larry Sanders Show should be higher, as should Fawlty Towers, and the original Bob Newhart Show.
Fleabag ain't all that, and The Americans should be lower based the fact that the main characters are ultimately despicable human beings.
The Expanse deserves to be on the list, Game of Thrones should be lower, and Lost being on the list at all is debatable.
A lot of very good shows shot themselves in the foot by being unable to sustain the quality of their first seasons. The O.A. and Maria Bamford's Lady Dynamite suffered due to this, but maybe deserve consideration.