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Who's the biggest asshole currently in music? (Original Post) Archae Aug 2012 OP
It's a close race with Ted Nugent av8rdave Aug 2012 #1
Nugent, hands down. n/t RebelOne Aug 2012 #9
Won't be long now 'til Charlie starts saying Ken Burch Aug 2012 #23
If he did, Obama's a damn good fiddler jmowreader Aug 2012 #65
My God...that's it...Obama is ROBERT JOHNSON!!!! Ken Burch Aug 2012 #67
Nugent. Ditto. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #45
add my vote AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #53
And mine Smickey Aug 2012 #69
Hank Williams is definitely among the biggest arseholes, Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #2
Nugent and Hank Jr for political assholishness. hifiguy Aug 2012 #11
Mike is also a right-wing douchenozzle politically Ken Burch Aug 2012 #24
I wonder if "Bocephus" is ever sober enough to realize what he's saying politically? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #62
"riots" = sore-loser white people who hate democracy arcane1 Aug 2012 #3
Actually, white Southerners forced the end of Reconstruction and the birth of "Jim Crow" Ken Burch Aug 2012 #31
why didnt they riot the first time instead of hanging tea bags on their hats? NightWatcher Aug 2012 #4
It's hard to riot from a lawn chair or a scooter arcane1 Aug 2012 #6
You've now given me the image of "The Spirit of '76 Headwound Band" Ken Burch Aug 2012 #61
Randy Travis has to be in the conversation KamaAina Aug 2012 #5
His hair adds about 1½ inches to his height. His glower seems to add another inch on top of that. Bucky Aug 2012 #12
It's not just the Bachmann thing KamaAina Aug 2012 #13
He's a musician. They're required to get nekkid and threaten the cops at least once per career. Bucky Aug 2012 #14
It's all the Mormon Tabernacle Choir's management can do Ken Burch Aug 2012 #68
The fact that he's a Christian - certainly doesn't help things. Initech Aug 2012 #40
Not a Christian per se KamaAina Aug 2012 #63
Hank Hill... Initech Aug 2012 #64
PWD KamaAina Aug 2012 #72
You know..... sendero Aug 2012 #42
Mike Love should get the Career Achievement award byeya Aug 2012 #7
Mike Love had a career? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #25
Good one! byeya Aug 2012 #47
Hey Charlie edhopper Aug 2012 #8
"tired old fake bluegrass shit" Bertha Venation Aug 2012 #51
Maybe less political but... Chan790 Aug 2012 #10
Was Taylor at the age of consent when Mayer played her? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #26
They were junkies because they had to deal with Corgan. Tobin S. Aug 2012 #46
It's possible you could be right... Ken Burch Aug 2012 #57
Billy's not so bad in person. kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #50
Interesting info. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #56
I'm as big a Corgan fan as anybody RZM Aug 2012 #48
Look at Van Morrison Ken Burch Aug 2012 #58
This list wouldn't be complete without Kid Rock... sadbear Aug 2012 #15
Kid Rock is a douche jmowreader Aug 2012 #66
I take issue with your characterization sadbear Aug 2012 #71
Nugent is a good guitarist jmowreader Aug 2012 #74
The biggest... pipi_k Aug 2012 #16
Axel Fucking Rose Major Nikon Aug 2012 #17
I'd put Axel in the "most conflicted" category, too... Ken Burch Aug 2012 #27
Homophobe and a racist Major Nikon Aug 2012 #32
I STILL can't believe that Slash(who's black, for God's sake)didn't ditch G'nR Ken Burch Aug 2012 #33
It's probably the only honest song Rose ever wrote (the rest were just rehashed Aero$mith) Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #34
That is very, very true. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #38
For the life of me.. sendero Aug 2012 #43
Nugent takes the prize, but Kid Rock is also a HUGE ass. nt PassingFair Aug 2012 #18
Yes, Nugent, and there's just so many to choose from. nt ohnoyoudidnt Aug 2012 #20
I think Kid was pretty much playing himself in JOE DIRT Ken Burch Aug 2012 #60
There's a choice? HopeHoops Aug 2012 #19
Nugent Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #21
Gotta be Nugent, but I think Chris Brown deserves a shout out. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #22
Chris Brown definitely has cosmic payback coming Ken Burch Aug 2012 #29
Chris Brown is a major douchebag. Initech Aug 2012 #39
+1. Chris Brown may not be the biggest douche, but man, it's pretty close n/t RZM Aug 2012 #49
Started a related thread for movie star assholes/douches here: Ken Burch Aug 2012 #28
We're just talking about musicians here Ken Burch Aug 2012 #30
His two brothers Stewart and Ian weren't any prizes either Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #35
What did they do? Archae Aug 2012 #37
Stewart was in the famous band lovemydog Aug 2012 #41
Dare we ask what you think of their bass player with the striped shirt? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #59
For one man's story about this.. sendero Aug 2012 #44
They totally got screwed! kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #52
He's still alive??? madinmaryland Aug 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Amerigo Vespucci Aug 2012 #54
Probably Randy Travis. Didn't he just get busted for passing out drunk and naked? HopeHoops Aug 2012 #55
Holy crap - 70 posts and no one has mentioned Lars Ulrich yet? Initech Aug 2012 #70
Hey Sugarcoated Aug 2012 #73

av8rdave

(10,573 posts)
1. It's a close race with Ted Nugent
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

I wonder if Charlie ever wonders why there weren't riots when Obama was elected the first time?

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
65. If he did, Obama's a damn good fiddler
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:44 PM
Aug 2012

Come on now: does anyone really think Johnny played better than the devil?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
67. My God...that's it...Obama is ROBERT JOHNSON!!!!
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:11 PM
Aug 2012


explains why you never see those two in the same photograph.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
2. Hank Williams is definitely among the biggest arseholes,
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

if not the biggest. Ted "pants-shitter" Nugent is up there, too.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Nugent and Hank Jr for political assholishness.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:15 PM
Aug 2012

Mike Love on general principles. The man's entire career has been based on Brian Wilson's genius.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. Mike is also a right-wing douchenozzle politically
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:57 PM
Aug 2012

He was campaigning for #41 in '88, and his crony Bruce Johnstone(the lame-ass keyboard player they brought in when Brian got too crazy to tour) actually calls Obama a socialist(he's quoted doing that in the Rolling Stone article about the Surviving Beach Boy Reunion Tour.)

Other than being blonde and looking semi-studly on stage back in the day, what the hell did Love EVER bring to that group? He can't sing for shit and he also basically ordered the band to stop trying to grow creatively in 1966 or so(it was Love that decided to turn down the Boys invite to Monterey Pop, thereby instantly turning them into a cheesy nostalgia act).

I think having to deal with Mike Love is half the reason Brian lost it in the late Sixties.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
62. I wonder if "Bocephus" is ever sober enough to realize what he's saying politically?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

It's possible that he was in a blackout every time he told us his opinions.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. Actually, white Southerners forced the end of Reconstruction and the birth of "Jim Crow"
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:30 PM
Aug 2012

by staging a continual series of riots(some of which would be considered terrorist by today's standards) between 1865 and 1876.

(I say that as a person with Tennessee ancestry on my father's side, before anyone accuses me of South-bashing).

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. why didnt they riot the first time instead of hanging tea bags on their hats?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:03 PM
Aug 2012

or move away like they threatened

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
61. You've now given me the image of "The Spirit of '76 Headwound Band"
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:13 PM
Aug 2012

on mobility scooters...playing their fifes and drum all the way into Denny's for the Early Bird Meal.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Randy Travis has to be in the conversation
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:24 PM
Aug 2012


He was also a prominent Bachmann supporter. Who would have guessed?

Bucky

(53,929 posts)
12. His hair adds about 1½ inches to his height. His glower seems to add another inch on top of that.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:47 PM
Aug 2012

He may be a Bachmann supporter, but he's not a fraction of the asshole Nugent is.

Bucky

(53,929 posts)
14. He's a musician. They're required to get nekkid and threaten the cops at least once per career.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:10 PM
Aug 2012

Don't blame Randy, blame the union rules. They have to do that before going to Betty Ford and launching a comeback.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
68. It's all the Mormon Tabernacle Choir's management can do
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:12 PM
Aug 2012

to keep THEIR naked and drunk incidents out of the media.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
63. Not a Christian per se
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:48 PM
Aug 2012

but someone who switched form country to Christian* music in mid-career.

In the words of the immortal Hank Hill, "You're not making rock 'n' roll better. You're just making Christianity worse."

Initech

(100,028 posts)
64. Hank Hill...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:23 PM
Aug 2012


I think the correct quote was "You're not making Christianity better, you're making rock n' roll worse."

sendero

(28,552 posts)
42. You know.....
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:33 AM
Aug 2012

.... I'm pretty sure Travis has a serious alcohol problem. I'm pretty sure he "recently" split with his partner of 30+ years and I'm pretty sure he is having a really hard time with it.

I'm pretty sure I don't agree with his politics, but then I don't hate people for being a bit thick about some things. Putting him in the same bucket as Nugent or Daniels is really not fair IMHO.

I

edhopper

(33,467 posts)
8. Hey Charlie
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 03:39 PM
Aug 2012

you know when the Devil went done to Georgia? Well he kicked that redneck's fiddle playing ass. Wasn't even close. Only an ignorant hillbilly would think he actually one with that tired old fake bluegrass shit.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
10. Maybe less political but...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 03:54 PM
Aug 2012

any conversation not including Billy Corgan and John Mayer is incomplete. Love their music but man are they both assholes on a cosmic scale. John Mayer gets special mention for taking advantage of a 17 year old Taylor Swift then bragging about it in the entertainment industry rags.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
26. Was Taylor at the age of consent when Mayer played her?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:07 PM
Aug 2012

If not...he's could be a REAL popular guy on the cellblock



And yes, Corgan is way overbearing(he truly DESERVED to go bald early)but partially in his defense, James and D'arcy were big-time junkies and anybody else would have kicked them out of the band too.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
46. They were junkies because they had to deal with Corgan.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:55 AM
Aug 2012

Heh, I really don't know. I just felt like being a contrarian.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
50. Billy's not so bad in person.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:24 PM
Aug 2012

D'arcy was always nice to me, and James and Jimmy are fucking jerks. Jimmy Chamberlain....I remember being at a bar and if anyone would attempt to talk to him, he'd show them the palm of his hand, on which he'd written "Fuck You."

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
56. Interesting info.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:05 PM
Aug 2012

I probably shouldn't have used the "j" word...and hopefully D'arcy can still get well.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
48. I'm as big a Corgan fan as anybody
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:58 PM
Aug 2012

I think he's one of the best musicians of his generation, especially when it comes to songwriting. He's an amazingly prolific songwriter and has penned some real classics. Plus he's always been underrated as a guitarist. He's got serious playing skills.

But yeah, even I admit that he's a total prick. But so many of the great ones are . . .

John Mayer fails in both departments for me. I can't stand his music and I don't get the impression he's a very nice person.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
58. Look at Van Morrison
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

one of the greatest songwriters in history...and frequently a total bastard at the same time.

Perhaps the problem is that people assume that a genius will also be a saint.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
15. This list wouldn't be complete without Kid Rock...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:54 PM
Aug 2012

but maybe he's more of a douche than an asshole. (I differentiate.)

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
66. Kid Rock is a douche
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:47 PM
Aug 2012

Among currently living musicians, Nugent is at the top of the asshole food chain.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
74. Nugent is a good guitarist
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:33 AM
Aug 2012

It's his singing that gets him in trouble. But the worthless fuck CAN play the guitar.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
16. The biggest...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

can't say for sure who THE biggest is, but one of the biggest is probably Ted Nugent.

Which really freaks me out because I do like a lot of his music.

I don't know if people can really appreciate how much it can suck to have mixed feelings like that.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
27. I'd put Axel in the "most conflicted" category, too...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:08 PM
Aug 2012

We're talking about a homophobe whose key musical influences were Freddy Mercury and Elton John.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
33. I STILL can't believe that Slash(who's black, for God's sake)didn't ditch G'nR
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:36 PM
Aug 2012

the INSTANT Axel showed him the lyrics for "One In a Million".

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
34. It's probably the only honest song Rose ever wrote (the rest were just rehashed Aero$mith)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:19 PM
Aug 2012

It's a repellent song, but it does express the worldview of a midwestern redneck

sendero

(28,552 posts)
43. For the life of me..
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:35 AM
Aug 2012

... I could never understand how anyone could listen to that whiny fingers-on-chalkboard voice of his. I have no idea if he can write a song because his singing is so bloody horrific!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
30. We're just talking about musicians here
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
Aug 2012

in the Eighties, one of the biggest behind-the-scenes music biz douches was a guy named Miles Copeland. To start with, he was the son of a CIA agent. He then became a label head in Britain(and was an outspoken Thatcherite as well)in which role he openly defended the right of record labels to take most of the proceeds from album sales while leaving the people who actually wrote and performed the music with almost nothing.

Further back, you'd also want to include every white-owned label that ever cheated a black r&b group out of its rightful share of royalties.

Archae

(46,298 posts)
37. What did they do?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:25 AM
Aug 2012

Ian I had never heard of, but Stewart created music for 3 videogames I have, the first three in the "Spyro The Dragon" series.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
44. For one man's story about this..
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:39 AM
Aug 2012

... listen to "Talkin' Wall of Voodoo Blues Pt 1" by Stan Ridgway (ex Wall of Voodoo, a sadly under appreciated band). IRS records screwed them over big time.

"The contract was like a book
Two hundred pages long
We signed there on that dotted line
Just a dollar for each song
Just a dollar."

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
52. They totally got screwed!
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:29 PM
Aug 2012

And they were very nice guys, to boot. I lived out in Hollywood in my youth, and they had a practice space above a store on Hollywood Boulevard. I used to buy them beer, it was either because they were broke, or not old enough, I can't remember which.

Mark Morland died in France waiting for a liver transplant, I think. Finally drank himself to death, which is a shame. He was sweet and gorgeous.

Response to Archae (Original post)

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
55. Probably Randy Travis. Didn't he just get busted for passing out drunk and naked?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:41 PM
Aug 2012

May have dreamed that, but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere.

Initech

(100,028 posts)
70. Holy crap - 70 posts and no one has mentioned Lars Ulrich yet?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 03:09 AM
Aug 2012

He killed Napster and unleashed the insanity known as the Recording Industry Association Of America.

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