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Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:59 PM Aug 2012

Sorry to bug you I am having a really tough night

I am still unemployed and having a more difficult time even finding the required four things to apply for each week. I am now looking in to the gaping maw that is the holidays coming toward me and I will not be able to do anything for my kids. They are 17 and 13 and they totally understand, its me that this is killing. A friend of mine has come through with a two day a week odd jobs kind of thing I can do that may keep my lights on so I guess that is one good thing. I am starting to think that my time as a professional with an office and a decent income are behind me and I am going to have to go back to being in retail like back in college, I really feel like shit. I have been out of work for over four months. To some people that doesn't sound like much time but I am losing who I am and feeling worse every day I go without work.

My brother is going in to brigham and women's hospital tomorrow to have the golf ball sized cyst in his brain looked at. I am terrified for him. He has two young boys one is 4 and 1 is 1 1/2 He is scared to death and I am trying to make him feel better.

I am trying to make jewelry to sell but I am losing confidence in that too. I am going to have to figure out how to do it on line and the website will have to be free-something else that is overwhelming.

I cant afford to get the kids school clothes or haircuts. I haven't had a haircut in four months and look like shit. I just want to crawl under the bed and hide.

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Sorry to bug you I am having a really tough night (Original Post) Robyn66 Aug 2012 OP
I'll bet you don't look like shit, and I think things will get better. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #1
You have great kids. rug Aug 2012 #2
Sending good thoughts.. Best thing to do is not lose hope or confidence. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #3
I have a lot of experience and skills Robyn66 Aug 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Aug 2012 #4
I have Robyn66 Aug 2012 #8
Sending positive vibes your way susanr516 Aug 2012 #5
He IS entitled to partial SS at 61. turtlerescue1 Aug 2012 #11
Thanks! susanr516 Aug 2012 #15
Stay strong. grantcart Aug 2012 #6
Thank you :) Robyn66 Aug 2012 #9
My heart goes out to you. RebelOne Aug 2012 #10
do you need to have both cars registered at htis time? Kali Aug 2012 #13
I'm wishing for you. sendero Aug 2012 #7
Look through the telephone book and get the phone numbers of places where you want to work. applegrove Aug 2012 #12
There's not much I haven't laughed at. turtlerescue1 Aug 2012 #14
You did make me smile Robyn66 Aug 2012 #17
sending some good vibes. Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2012 #16
I Can Help with Website Misskittycat Aug 2012 #18
thank you soooo much!!! Robyn66 Aug 2012 #32
Oh Robyn, I'm sorry... Aristus Aug 2012 #19
I have heard of this Robyn66 Aug 2012 #30
How what works? Aristus Aug 2012 #35
I have a friend who makes extra cash by selling jewelry online at etsy.com Tunkamerica Aug 2012 #20
Robyn, I am so sorry! I can tell you that thrift shops and GoodWill stores are our saving grace when GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #21
I just cut my own hait the other day :) Robyn66 Aug 2012 #29
Way to go on the hair! I used to be able to do my bangs, but I don't dare try the back. LOL Yes, the GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #34
The reference to Brigham and Women's tells me you're in Mass. KamaAina Aug 2012 #22
My brother lives in Mass Robyn66 Aug 2012 #26
I'm not familiar with how thisngs work in Massachusetts, hedgehog Aug 2012 #23
(((hug))) WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #24
Thanks Will Robyn66 Aug 2012 #27
Lounge vibes,Robyn. Swede Aug 2012 #25
Thank you! Robyn66 Aug 2012 #28
Robyn I'm sending Strong Woman vibes. You'll get through this. nolabear Aug 2012 #33
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. I'll bet you don't look like shit, and I think things will get better.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:05 PM
Aug 2012

Hold tight Robyn66, and I bet that your kids will be understanding about gifts, screw xmas gifts, just give love.

Your jewelry, maybe you can post a question for advice on selling in the DU marketplace. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1120

I gave myself haircuts the whole time I was in college with a good pair of scissors, a Wahl electric shaver for hair is pretty cheap, you might find one used, haircuts could be a quality family time thing to do!

I'm sending good vibes, that's about all I can do!



progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
3. Sending good thoughts.. Best thing to do is not lose hope or confidence.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:15 PM
Aug 2012

I don't know anything about your experience or skills, but I've been successful with the job hunt in the past by contacting companies that are not advertising a job. Most jobs are not advertised, but found through networking. Are there any chamber of commerce, or networking groups, that have mixers each month? That's a great way to meet people that can put you in touch with those that are hiring. And networking events are a great way to keep connected with the professional 'you'

How about some volunteering, if possible? I've known many people who have gone on to paying jobs from their volunteering with groups they're interested in helping. Don't lose hope... all it takes is ONE job interview to get employed again, and you can't know if that will be tomorrow, or next week, so keep your chin up!

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
31. I have a lot of experience and skills
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:21 PM
Aug 2012

In fact I am over qualified for most everything I am applying for so they arent giving me a second glance. You have given me some great tips, thank you!

Response to Robyn66 (Original post)

susanr516

(1,425 posts)
5. Sending positive vibes your way
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:05 PM
Aug 2012

My husband had to retire earlier this year, his body was just giving out from the job. He repaired phone cables and lines--he has problems with his knees and shoulders. We were hoping he could make it to 62, but he just couldn't do it. We're trying to get him on Social Security disability, but that's a crap shoot at best. I found a job, but it's temporary. So we're living off savings right now and I hope it holds out for another year. If I end up unemployed, I don't know what we'll do. Fortunately, he has a couple of annuities that will start up next year and he will be 62 just over a year from now, so I do see a point when it gets a little better for us.

I know what you mean when you say the days of a decent income may be behind you. Our youngest son is 17 and we have a 24 yr old son who can't find work anywhere and is living with us again.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
11. He IS entitled to partial SS at 61.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:09 PM
Aug 2012

I know this for certain, as that is my source of income. Go online and apply. Ain't much but beats the old poke in the eye thing.
AND dunno where you are but also online is Experience Works/SCSEP you have to be an old fart. With my blasted back...nursing is gone, GONE. Check it out.

susanr516

(1,425 posts)
15. Thanks!
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:56 PM
Aug 2012

I will check both options out. He turns 61 later this month. He just applied at the local school district to be a Special Ed bus aide. It's 30 hrs a week at $9 per hr, but he's not sure he can pass the test to get into and out of the bus from the emergency exits as quickly as is required. Some days his knees don't hurt him at all; other days they give him fits, especially if he's trying to stand up from a deep knee bend.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. Stay strong.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

"I will not be able to do anything for my kids".

You are doing a lot for your kids. You are showing them grace under pressure.

A decade ago we lost everything and were reduced to sleeping bags living in a house where we exchanged 6 months rent for painting and fixing up the house before a sale. At a family dinner somebody suggested that we go on welfare and my daughters laughed out loud. When they asked what was so funny the older one said "well you think things are desperate and Dad thinks we are on an extended camping trip he's no where close to going on welfare, when you see him doing dishes at a Chinese restaurant then you know he is getting close to going on welfare".

So they have had hard times but they are now both doing very very well.

Think of it as an opportunity to show your children how to handle hard times.

A couple of tips.

When you see something that you need to get something done, don't be afraid to ask for help.

I went a mechanic at one point and said "I need your help. I need to get my car fixed so that I can get to a new job. Do you have some paperwork or anything else I can help you with that would make it possible to help me?" He didn't but his brother had a house he wanted to sell but it need plastering and painting, so we stayed rent free for 6 months and worked on the house in exchange for rent".

Think out of the box.

We couldn't watch TV but we could listen to one station on the radio. So we would have Jeopardy contests together. I would make up silly answers just to get everyone laughing.

If you think Wheel of Fortune is hard on TV, try doing it by listening to the radio and not knowing where the 2 Ts and 1 Rs are.

I got a good job but instead of getting a better living condition we sent our oldest to an expensive private school. She was getting lost in the bigger system schools and sending her to the smaller school allowed her to blossom. You know those arguments that every teenager has with their parents? We never had any because she saw the whole family sleeping on the floor so she could go to this school.

I know how it feels and you are 100% justified in feeling the way you do. I really sense from your post that you can handle this. You will still have long periods of depression, I did, but try and step out and see if you can find some way to look at the possibilities from another angle. Give the 17 year old the pair of sizzors and tell her/him to make Dad look great.

Stay strong you have a great deal to offer, you will do this, your children will remember it for the rest of their lives and it will be something that will help them in their hard times, stay strong. You can do it.

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
9. Thank you :)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:17 PM
Aug 2012

I have two wonderful daughters. And I know I am strong, even though I don't feel strong right now. All I seem to do today is just cry. I know i am lucky I have this under the table two day a week job starting this week that should hopefully help with paying the electric billl. I'm still not 100% sure where I am going to get 400 to register the two vehicles at the end of the month but I might be able to figure it out hopefully. I spend almost all day every day looking and looking on line for jobs to apply for and I just cant find anything. I am going to be applying for a night and weekend retail job because we need the money and even though I know the place isn't hiring right now I know someone who works there so I will be near the top of the pile for when they are. I just cant believe I am sitting here in this mess. Its so unfair I didn't deserve this! I am not even going to get in to it but I got completely screwed out of my job. I'm just being such a whiny bitch tonight!! I should be glad that my husband is working and I know there are people who have it so much worse than I do. Its a good thing I am too poor to drink!

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
10. My heart goes out to you.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

I hope something comes your way soon. I was laid off my job in 2010 after 13 years. But fortunately, I was collecting social security, so I was not destitute, but it was hard losing that weekly salary. And now I am living solely on social security, which only pays my monthly bills. I feel sorry for anyone not receiving any monthly income.

I am so sorry because I have been in your shoes a few times, but luckily, something always came along. So do not give up hope.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
13. do you need to have both cars registered at htis time?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:27 PM
Aug 2012

we have several vehicles sitting around but only one is registered (and more importantly to me, insured - I will stall on registering for several months and pay late fees if I have to but always keep my insurance up on the one we drive in public)

You are not alone, know that. There is no shame in what you are going through. Be good to yourself, your kids will be fine if the important stuff is there - showing them how to get throught this is more important than paying for fancy haircuts. Figure out how to do it "yourself" there are you tube videos I am positive for showing how to do basic hair cuts - if not there books at the library that will.

there is a frugal living group here, do you know about it?

anyway you came for support and I am giving "helpful" hints, sorry. It feels awful to say no to our kids for ANY reason. But really they can handle it and it will be OK. If you had all the money in the world there would still be something out of reach you couldn't afford that would make you feel the same way. Trust me, the urge to provide for them is that strong. Love them, spend time with them - share the burden with them a little - LET them help, even if it is just not receiving big xmas gifts. They will be better human beings for it. Thank them for their maturity.

It will be alright. I promise.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
7. I'm wishing for you.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:02 PM
Aug 2012

... some good news and urging you to allow yourself to grieve but then find some hope. Things can and do turn on a dime and you have to expect that it will happen to you!

Your kids know you love them and that is all that matters so put that part out of your mind.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
12. Look through the telephone book and get the phone numbers of places where you want to work.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:15 PM
Aug 2012

Then call them and ask for their address and the name of the personnel manager. Do a huge mail merge and send out letters and your resume. Good luck. It is really, really hard when the losses begin to stack up. But just think how relieved you will be every single day when you get past all this. You really truly can enjoy life more for going through great pains once it is over. Take the long view. When you are 80 and you look back...this bad patch was only a bad year or so.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
14. There's not much I haven't laughed at.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:40 PM
Aug 2012

Its a long long list over 62 years. The "title" didn't say it was easy. A friend called it"resiliency" I call it "No choice". Had so much of Murphy's Law, wrote wanted to change my last name to Murphy, next letter came addressed to "..... Murphy-...."
Know about the next shoe dropping, after my mate died for two years it felt like being locked in Imelda Marcos' closet with her 600 pairs of shoes, dropping one at a time.
One Christmas had to tell everyone I care about "Unless you believe in Santa Claus, don't plan on a gift from me this year."
Yesterday was at a "free" canoe race with a concert after, being a volunteer got in free. I smoke, but have this thing about not tossing butts on the ground. If I don't find a used pop can, the butts show up in the washer. So was bent over looking in a trash can last night for a butt can, crowd of outtatowners around. The friends I was with said "OH you don't have to dig in the trash can to get something to eat..." I replied "Yes I do, am on Social Security now." Later another friend said " You should have played it, someone would've pulled out a quarter or a dollar."
When my mate died, the day of his service family had come out of State, and on the way to the basement(you know we Lutherans always have to have a meal), nephew gets a phone call "the first pup" was born. Yep, I never needed, wanted or dreamed of having a Pitt/Boxer/English Bulldog mix..but -so named him after my mate. When my mate died he wanted to be cremated, so got the little silver hearshaped necklace with a dab of him. About three months later had to go see my favorite neurologist, he was on staff in the same ward as my mate. He asked what was new, so I told him about the new puppy and the necklace. He replied "Well I can't see that much has changed, he's still on a leash and around you neck as well."
When gas went so high, I was doing a 40 mile a day commute, no place left to cut. The ladies at the lunchroom told me they make their own laundry soap. For less than $10 here I get 10 gallons, non allergenic, decent smell and decent clean. Been doing it for just about 18 months, costs is $2 a month. AND folks around me who are finding out about the bottom of the barrel are also doing this.
Do you have a friend who can cut your hair?
A friend and I don't get together much, but when we do we always come prepared with our bitch/whine lists. We went to lunch one day, and after we sat down, she said "Did you bring your bitch list?" Well yeah, at which time she took out a roll of adding machine tape and tossed it across the floor. Yep, she had her's.

No, this isn't finding you a job, but hopefully it makes you smile. And that is all you can do until this ends.

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
17. You did make me smile
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:14 AM
Aug 2012

I am very grateful for all of the tips everyone has given me and it helps to hear how all of you have gotten through these kinds of times.
xx

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
16. sending some good vibes.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:04 AM
Aug 2012

Perspective has a lot to do with it. I'm 41 and have been out of work for about 2 years, so I understand how easy it is to feel like you are losing your sense of self. Its not the way 'life is supposed to be', at least not by the metrics that we probably knew growing up and seeing all around us. Becoming unemployed suddenly upends the notion of being a provider, and a valuable contributer within a work environment. Limited options can erode our sense of self.

On one hand, I was lucky because I was divorced, no kids, self employed and owned a house. So I was able to engineer my own crash landing a bit, and minimize the fallout. But on the other hand, I'm not as lucky to have a stable anchor like the fabulous kids, caring family and helpful friends that you describe. Hang in there, you are definitely not alone or adrift with assets like those.

Best wishes.

Misskittycat

(1,916 posts)
18. I Can Help with Website
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:07 PM
Aug 2012

I can help you with the website. PM me. I was thinking about posting about my crappy week, but ... well, I may anyway, later.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
19. Oh Robyn, I'm sorry...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:42 AM
Aug 2012


Prayers and good wishes for your brother.

We Loungers will be here for you when you need us...

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
20. I have a friend who makes extra cash by selling jewelry online at etsy.com
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:19 AM
Aug 2012

I don't know the particulars, but she does it. Also, know another couple who sell gourmet cupcakes on there as well.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
21. Robyn, I am so sorry! I can tell you that thrift shops and GoodWill stores are our saving grace when
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

outfitting our boys for "new" school clothes, as we can get clothes for as low as a dollar a piece. (Sometimes they want a $5 shirt. Some years we can do that, some we can't.) And we keep an eye out for coupons for buy one get one or half off deals on sneakers, which is the real budget buster for us.

As for hair, I've cut theirs for years. It's not fun. I hate it and so do they, but somehow they come out looking more or less like a human being. Some barbers have really decent prices on haircuts, $10 or so. But for our family that was still out of reach, so we haven't done that very often. If you have a hairdresser's academy in your area, you can get good deals there as well. (I haven't had my hair cut in a good long while, either. I am wearing hairbands again like when I was a little girl, except the hair by my forehead is all grey now. I've come full circle, I guess.)

Last year was a sparse Xmas. We had a tree with hardly anything under it, and those things came from lovely people who knew our kids didn't have anything. Some years can be like that.

I will keep you, your family, and your brother in my prayers. I hope everything goes well for him and gets better for you! I understand the strain of not feeling good about yourself, about worrying over the food and clothes and bills. I hope you can make that beautiful jewelry and sell it, so you can can get your hair nice. It's funny how a decent haircut can make you feel so much better!!

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
29. I just cut my own hait the other day :)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:18 PM
Aug 2012

Its good enough for now. I am looking for free kids haircuts, there have been some in the area but I am not sure what the age cut off is.

You are so right about the thrift shopps I just have a terrible time finding clothes that fit my girls. i was looking for myself too and just cant find anything.

Thank you for the prayers. i always appreciate that!!
All the best!

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
34. Way to go on the hair! I used to be able to do my bangs, but I don't dare try the back. LOL Yes, the
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:38 PM
Aug 2012

biggest problem with thrift shops is a lack of sizes. My older son got too big for kid stuff and was too small for men's stuff, and for some reason Jr high age clothes are the hardest for us to find so we wound up at Kmart for some of his shopping. This year, though, he's in men's sizes. Now it's the younger son who is in the hard to fit zone. LOL

Hang in there! Maybe you'll find a yard sale or church sale that will have what you need. Check the papers and see what's listed for the next few weekends.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
22. The reference to Brigham and Women's tells me you're in Mass.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:15 PM
Aug 2012

Have you tried the Mass. group?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1057

Although it isn't as active as I'd expect, given the number of A-list DUers we have up there.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
23. I'm not familiar with how thisngs work in Massachusetts,
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:06 PM
Aug 2012

but here in New York there are classes given at the labor center to help you look for work and fix up your resume. The local libraries also have meetings to help people with job hunting skills and networking. Some churches and YMCAs offer similar assistance. You aren't alone, and what you are facing is not your fault.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
33. Robyn I'm sending Strong Woman vibes. You'll get through this.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:43 PM
Aug 2012

I'm glad you posted. We need one another to give perspective in hard times. People here have given good suggestions. And you DO have a job. It's to dedicate your mad skills to being creative and to love hell out of those daughters and employ their creativity as well.

Keep posting. And when someone else needs it pay it forward.

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