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bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:46 PM Aug 2012

Wow! My brother just scored two tix to ZZ Top tonight!

Last edited Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Being the most excellent brother that he is, he invited me! Gonna see 'em at the Pavilion in Concord. The Cure is opening.

Last time I saw ZZ Top was '96 in Berkeley when they were touring in support of the Rhythmeen album. Stripped down stage show, just the three of them with no moving sidewalks or giant cars. Cool show, and I expect tonight will be similar. The Cure is not one of my favorite bands, but I've never seen them and I may be surprised at their live music.

Can't wait!

Edit to correct the opening act. Got to the show, and it was in fact "The Cult" and not "The Cure". Actually makes a little more sense as The Cult is a bit more an the hard edge.

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Wow! My brother just scored two tix to ZZ Top tonight! (Original Post) bluesbassman Aug 2012 OP
as in Robert Smith and the Cure...opening for ZZ Top? NightWatcher Aug 2012 #1
I think John Tesh opening for ICP wins as most odd pairing! bluesbassman Aug 2012 #3
the weirdest pairing I've actually seen was Merle Haggard and Bob Dyan 6-7 years ago NightWatcher Aug 2012 #4
nah Kali Aug 2012 #7
Well, aren't you the lucky one. Have a great time! Arkansas Granny Aug 2012 #2
Don't forget your Dark Sunglasses!!! benld74 Aug 2012 #5
"Cheap" OriginalGeek Aug 2012 #12
My dear bluesbassman! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #6
Rock On HangOnKids Aug 2012 #8
Just got home. What a show! Billy, Dusty, and Frank did not disappoint! bluesbassman Aug 2012 #9
The Cult makes more sense now.. We are Devo Aug 2012 #11
Make sure he wears his cheap sun glasses. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #10
Saw 'em live as the warm up band in the late sixties in Houston. They were tight. freshwest Aug 2012 #13
Ya know, as cool and tight as they were last night... bluesbassman Aug 2012 #14
It was basic, just their instrumenrs, nothing fancy, fast and strong. Most bands were. freshwest Aug 2012 #15
One of the reasons I play in a blues band. bluesbassman Aug 2012 #16
I haven't been to one of the really modern music experiences. Can't afford it. freshwest Aug 2012 #17
I guess I should amend as I found the whole concert and there was a description of the mayhem that freshwest Aug 2012 #18
Wow, that was a very unique show! bluesbassman Aug 2012 #19
I saw them it was inside, a smaller crowd size, but they were just up on a wood platform. freshwest Aug 2012 #20
No, definitely not lipsynching. bluesbassman Aug 2012 #21
LOL! Well, keep it up though, it's good for your health. freshwest Aug 2012 #22

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. as in Robert Smith and the Cure...opening for ZZ Top?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:56 PM
Aug 2012

interesting mix of tastes there.

Let us know how the goths/emos and bikers mix

I know that all of both their fans are either an emo or a biker (I have cd's from both of them) but that just seems a strange pairing.

What do I know, next month I'm going to see John Tesh open for Insane Clown Posse

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
3. I think John Tesh opening for ICP wins as most odd pairing!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:02 PM
Aug 2012

Can't even imagine what the crowd would look like there, but more to the point if the Juggalos will even let Tesh finish his set!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. the weirdest pairing I've actually seen was Merle Haggard and Bob Dyan 6-7 years ago
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:34 PM
Aug 2012

Merle opened and played through his greatest hits and then Bob Dylan came out and played all of his songs twice as fast (I'm guessing so he could fit more in). As soon as Bob started and the lights dimmed, my dad asked "what's that smell?" "Oh dad, that's that guy's joint"

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
12. "Cheap"
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:03 PM
Aug 2012

cheap sunglasses. lol



I'm definitely jealous - would love to see ZZ Top and I wouldn't mind seeing the Cult.

And I would love to see Merle and Dylan too.


CaliforniaPeggy

(149,583 posts)
6. My dear bluesbassman!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:16 PM
Aug 2012

Oh, you lucky dog. you!

I know you'll have a great time!

I've always loved ZZ Top. I have never been to a live rock show.....*sob*

Maybe you can take some pictures?

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
9. Just got home. What a show! Billy, Dusty, and Frank did not disappoint!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:51 AM
Aug 2012

Opened up with "Waiting for the Bus / Jesus Just Left Chicago". They mixed it up throughout the show with tunes from all of their albums and played "25 Lighters" off their new work. Could have played some more blues, but that's just me. Only knock was Billy only played slide on one tune. Dusty and Frank were rock solid. As I predicted it was a very spartan stage set-up.

The Cult (who I mis-named as "The Cure" in the OP) were OK, again not really my cup of tea. Billy Duffy is a competent guitar player, but rather one dimensional, and Ian Astbury is just a bit over the top with his vocals. There was pretty good crowd response though, so I guess they did ok.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
14. Ya know, as cool and tight as they were last night...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:12 PM
Aug 2012

the sound is just too over processed. Heck, the few times that Billy spoke to the crowd, they didn't even bother turning down the effects. Sounded like he was talking from inside of a 55gal drum.

Their first four albums had a raw Texas blues sound. I really love that early stuff. I envy you for getting to see them during that period.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. I haven't been to one of the really modern music experiences. Can't afford it.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:36 PM
Aug 2012

Fortunately we have bands that play for free and I can hear them when I want to listen. Not that those instruments are free, or anything.

The closest I ever got to such a thing was at a Jefferson Airplane concert that didn't end too well. That's another story.

I lived nearby and rode my ten speed racing bike to see this one that used the city's buildings as the screen one night, it was a great experience:



I found this one when searching it for it, wasn't aware all that was going on, not sure what the traffic jam was related to it. Traffic was just part of daily life in a city of millions:







freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. I guess I should amend as I found the whole concert and there was a description of the mayhem that
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:52 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Surrounded it, and since I didn't drive, I had no idea of all that drama going on but I'll post the video description below the concert. I also didn't watch television in those days either, so color me clueless about what happened in the big picture. Anyway, I loved it and I bought all his music I could find. Was this this the kind of experience you had, with graphics at the ZZ Top concert?



Rendez-vous Houston: A City in Concert was a live performance by musician Jean Michel Jarre amidst the skyscrapers of downtown Houston on the evening of April 5, 1986, coinciding with the release of the Rendez-Vous album. For a period of time, it held a place in the Guinness Book of

Records as the largest outdoor "rock concert" in history, with figures varying from 1 to 1.5 million in attendance. Rendez-vous Houston is remembered for being the concert which celebrated the astronauts of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, which had happened only two and a half months beforehand. One of Jarre's friends, astronaut Ron McNair, had been killed in the disaster. He was supposed to play the saxophone from space during the track "Last Rendez-Vous"; his substitute for the concert was Houston native Kirk Whalum.

Planning and problems of the concert


In 1985, Jarre was contacted by the musical director of the Houston Grand Opera with the proposal for him related to the celebrations of Texas' 150th birthday in 1986, 150th birthday of the city of Houston and NASA's 25th birthday. Because of NASA's involvement, Jarre got the chance to keep in contact with a friend of his, astronaut captain Bruce McCandless II who later introduced Jarre to a flight companion of his, astronaut and jazz musician Ron McNair. Together they had the idea that for the celebrations, Jarre would create a piece of music that could be performed by McNair on his saxophone. The idea was that McNair, on his next trip into space in the Challenger Space Shuttle, would perform (and record onto video) the new piece of music, which would then be projected (through video playback) onto a giant screen that was to be constructed on the front of one of the buildings.

On January 28th, 1986, McNair telephoned Jarre for the last time. "...Everything's ready. See you in a week's time. Watch me on TV for the takeoff!" On that same day, an appalled world witnessed a historic tragedy - the Challenger Space Shuttle disintegrated in mid-air whilst on its ascent into space. Distraught by what happened, Jarre almost decided to cancel the concert. However, astronauts from NASA (including Bruce McCandless) telephoned Jarre. They asked Jarre not to cancel, as now the concert must go ahead, and be held in tribute to pay respect to the astronauts who had lost their lives in the disaster.

The run-up to the concert itself still did not go smoothly. Rain poured down on Houston a couple of days before the concert, destroying much of the equipment on stage (which was repaired by the day of the concert), breaking wires and ruining instruments. Furthermore, there had been a very strong wind blowing all week, which ended up splitting open the giant projection screen (which was made from several small canvas panels) and causing it to come crashing down.

The local police turned up during the middle of a rehearsal demanding immediate payment of a fine; the residents who lived nearby were complaining of excessive noise and were exhausted from their sleepless nights. Also, FBI officers threatened to put a stop to the whole proceedings because they were being deprived of electricity. 30 large lamps had been installed on top of FBI headquarters, and they were causing problems with their surveillance of Colonel Gaddafi, who was visiting the city at that time.

There was still one more slight problem before the concert started. The chief of the Houston Fire Department, Robert Clayton, had told Francis Dreyfus, Jarre's manager, that the show must be cancelled. This was due to a change of the wind direction; the Chief was concerned that the crowd would be showered with firework debris. After some back-and-forth argument with Dreyfus, Clayton agreed that the concert could proceed on a 'see how it goes' term.

During the concert (specifically, during the performance of Equinoxe Part 5), the amount of fireworks being used and the direction of the wind did indeed cause debris to rain down on the audience, covering them in ash. Clayton frantically began to try to stop the proceedings, fearing that people would be injured. Although his fears were duly noted, the crowd took no notice of the ash falling onto them and carried on enjoying the concert proceedings.

During the concert, Interstate 45 which runs past the downtown Buffalo Bayou Park, came to a standstill as locals and long distance travellers alike stopped, parked on the crowded freeway and applauded, wept and laughed in unison with the thousands below them in the park.

Track listing:

Ethnicolor part 1

Rural Space

Oxygène Part 1
Oxygène Part 2
Oxygène Part 4
Equinoxe Part 7
Souvenir of China

Urban Space

Equinoxe Part 4
Equinoxe Part 2
Equinoxe Part 5

Outer Space

Rendez-Vous 3
Rendez-Vous 2
Oxygène Part 5
Last Rendez-Vous (Ron's Piece)
Rendez-Vous 4
Rendez-Vous 4 (encore)

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
19. Wow, that was a very unique show!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:31 PM
Aug 2012

Glad you were able to see it.

The ZZ Top show was very conventional. The Pavilion seats about 12,000 and it is an outdoor venue, but is set up more or less as a "bowl". The stage is about medium size, and Top just set up smack in the middle. They did have graphics screens in the amp line and a huge screen over the drums which alternated between shots of the band and clips from past videos and a kind of story line with a woman, but other than normal show lights, that was it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. I saw them it was inside, a smaller crowd size, but they were just up on a wood platform.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:52 PM
Aug 2012

Very basic equipment, no television screens or graphics. Only Iron Butterfly and Airplane did. But it must have been nice to see all of those things at once.

Do you think they were lipsynching? You said it sounded canned, in a barrel, or something?

We actually walked back and forth in front of the stage. They weren't a big thing then, but wore what seemed to be their uniforms, their suits. I wish for the life of me I could remember what band they were the warm up.

Upthread it says that the way the bands are mixed with different styles. Maybe these are just the smalller venues. I don't know that they ever got that big, but ZZ Top is due to make an appearance in the northwest next week:

http://snocasino.com/

Oh, and do you play jazz music? We have outdoor concerts with that here. And a few clubs. It sounds a bit like swing music some times.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
21. No, definitely not lipsynching.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

Just a huge amount of digital processing which accounted for the hollowness to Billy"s voice when he was speaking.

No jazz, just blues and rock&roll. Too many weird time signatures in jazz, I'm kinda lazy.

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