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Latin Scholars: What is the nominative plural of "Santorum"? (Original Post) jberryhill Jan 2012 OP
Santori. n/t Suich Jan 2012 #1
Is it the same form in the possessive jberryhill Jan 2012 #2
I have no idea. Suich Jan 2012 #5
Santorum, with the -um suffix, is a neuter noun, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #3
More than one possibility. Vince843 Jan 2012 #4
Did Santorum come to us from the Greek? jberryhill Jan 2012 #8
Beats me. Santorum's family is Italian. Vince843 Jan 2012 #9
I believe the word you are looking for is beac Jan 2012 #6
You sir, are a true scholar jberryhill Jan 2012 #10
Perhaps it will not surprise you that I have been told that the nominative plural of "beac" is beac Jan 2012 #16
Santorrhea? n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #7
Douchebag? GoneOffShore Jan 2012 #11
Too formal Xipe Totec Jan 2012 #12
Fluids. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #13
Depends whether Santorum is the nominative or not tjwmason Jan 2012 #14
I'm guessing that the family name is a corruption of Sanctorum (pl. genitive= of the saints) JVS Jan 2012 #15
That's how I have always seen it, trackfan Jan 2012 #17
Plural genitals? jberryhill Jan 2012 #19
That would be my guess too. nt tjwmason Jan 2012 #21
Assholes? bif Jan 2012 #18
Keep firing? sakabatou Jan 2012 #20
. krispos42 Jan 2012 #22
Sanctimonous Douchebag libodem Jan 2012 #23

Suich

(10,642 posts)
5. I have no idea.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:52 AM
Jan 2012

Took Latin for 4 yrs. in high school a very long time ago. Hopefully, a REAL Latin Scholar can answer your question!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
3. Santorum, with the -um suffix, is a neuter noun,
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:49 AM
Jan 2012

therefore the plural would be santora. If it were a masculine noun it would be santorus, plural santori; if feminine it would be santora, plural santorae.

But regardless, one is more than enough.

 

Vince843

(13 posts)
4. More than one possibility.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jan 2012

Santorum could be second declension, singlular, accusative. Assuming it's a "masculine" noun in gender, the plural would be santori. Singular would be Santorus, just in case anybody was wondering.

Another possibility would be santorēs.

However normally we assume nouns are in the nominative case. In which case, santora is most correct.

beac

(9,992 posts)
16. Perhaps it will not surprise you that I have been told that the nominative plural of "beac" is
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jan 2012

"Smartasses."

tjwmason

(14,819 posts)
14. Depends whether Santorum is the nominative or not
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jan 2012

The ending is plausible for three different situations:

Santorum as nominative singular, neuter, second declension noun - plural nominative is Santora

Santorum as accusative singular, masculine, second declension noun - plural nominative is Santori

Santorum as genitive plural, masculine or neuter, second declension noun - plural nominative is Santi (masculine) or Santa (neuter)

JVS

(61,935 posts)
15. I'm guessing that the family name is a corruption of Sanctorum (pl. genitive= of the saints)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jan 2012

The dropping of the "c" from Sanctus/Sancta is easily found in modern Romance languages: San Diego, Santiago, Santa Maria, Santa Lucia)

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
17. That's how I have always seen it,
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jan 2012

whether that is the actual derivation or not; but when reading Latin, -orum so often signals a genitive plural that it's hard not to think of that.

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