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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI hate corned beef and cabbage
And I'm part Irish. Born in Illinois, raised in Iowa, want to visit Dublin someday, not for the food but for the...beer!
In fact, when I lived in my old place, there was an excellent pizza place a couple of blocks away and without fail on St. Patrick's Day, I'd order take out pizza from them, sit all alone and eat pizza and drink Irish beer, usually Smithwick's. Now that was a good St. Patrick's Day. Does all this make me a bad guy? And does anyone actually care?
Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I think it's more of an Irish-American thing and possibly developed out of the traditional New England boiled dinner.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I'd rather have corned beef all day every day instead of ham. And I like ham.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)It is an American dish but based on an Irish meal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon_and_cabbage#Corned_beef_and_cabbage
"The dish consists of unsliced back bacon boiled with cabbage and potatoes. Sometimes other vegetables such as turnips, onions and carrots are also added. Smoked bacon is sometimes used."
"In the mid-to-late 19th century, Irish immigrants to the United States began substituting corned beef for bacon when making the dish, hence creating corned beef and cabbage.[3] Like the original, it sometimes includes additional vegetables (especially carrots and potatoes); this also gives it a certain similarity to the New England boiled dinner, which almost invariably contains a mixture of root vegetables along with boiled meat and cabbage."
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)could cheerfully exist without the cabbage! It took me years to stop saying "I am not Irish, thanks" when people said Happy St Paddy's Day.
I think I just did it again!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)But most people just boil it to death, and I don't blame you for disliking it.
I'm making corned beef, cabbage, carrots and mashed potatoes with scallions this afternoon.
The corned beef goes into the pot for three hours. The carrots go in for the last 45 minutes, and the cabbage only goes in for the final 15 to 20 minutes. Most folks say they like the way I do the cabbage. The main accompaniment to the meal is reduced-fat sour cream mixed with prepared horseradish.
The other thing I do is cut off every bit of visible fat from the corned beef with a very sharp knife before boiling it. The fat is disgusting and just adds unnecessary calories and cholesterol.
The unpeeled potatoes are boiled separately, then mashed with hot milk and chopped scallions that have been slowly cooked in butter until soft.
There isn't a drop of Irish in me either, but I do this meal because my husband's half Irish, making my daughters a quarter Irish. I don't eat meat any more, just the mashed potatoes and vegetables.
Have a good almost-Spring!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Best cabbage I ever had!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)in a small amount of olive oil, with cumin and a quarter-teaspoon of turmeric, until it's wilted.
This goes nicely with Mrs. T's pierogies.
I avoid eating or cooking meat as much as possible, but do the corned beef thing once or twice a year,
Sometimes I cook shredded cabbage (or a bag of cole slaw mix)t without the spices but add several cloves of chopped garlic, finely cut carrots, maybe some peas at the end, mix it with srirarcha and soy sauce and a scrambled egg, and mix it with long rice noodles that have soaked in boiling-hot water for 6 minutes. Topped with cilantro, it's a Vietnamese-type dish although I can't swear to its authenticity.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)actually, it's the only way I can eat it.
Otherwise I keep chewing and chewing and chewing....etc.
It's the only veggie I think tastes better boiled to death.
Some people boil asparagus to death. Yech. Cook just till it turns bright green.
yum!
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I have never thought of using scallions in them...cooking those in butter until soft sounds just about perfect! I will try it when next I want some mashed taters.
I am one of those very fortunate people whose systems digests cholesterol rather than letting it collect in the arteries. I love the fat on the corned beef...(when I order steaks from the butcher, I ask them not to trim the fat!) I no longer eat every bit of it but I want it available! Disgusting to some, I know.
I live alone now, and decided not to make a corned beef today. The next time I do...I don't wait for this holiday, but make it several times a year, (4 - 6) I may try making cabbage your way. Someone else recently told me they steam their cabbage by making the CB in a slow cooker and placing the cabbage on top. That sounds like a possibility as well.
Thanks for the potatoes with scallions!
You have a great day as well!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)and sometimes it's made with boiled kale added. I think it may be an actual Irish thing. I got the recipe from some women's magazine years ago.
Here's to the non-Irish too!
Grantuspeace
(873 posts)Then add potatoes. A little latter carrots, and finish with cabbage. You are spot on adding the veggies as you go along. Otherwise you just get mush!
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NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)A few Irish pubs close by do a nice job with it. Am learning to love the cabbage as well. And I am French and German...go figure!
My Irish and Scottish wife doesn't like the corned beef...just the cabbage and potatoes!
we are having Eggplant, Zucchini and roasted tomato sauce over whole wheat pasta for dinner.....go figure again!
Paulie
(8,462 posts)White vinegar on the boiled to death cabbage.
Today will be corned beef and polish sauerkraut. My much preferred form of cooked cabbage.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)Moondog
(4,833 posts)I am mostly Scot on one side, English on the other, with some Irish back there in the mix.
I like corned beef on a sandwich. Maybe with some pastrami. With some slaw, and Russian dressing. On rye. Hot.
In other words, Jewish Deli style.
Otherwise, I'd just as soon pass on it altogether.
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Moondog
(4,833 posts)Cute little colleen there.
Hopefully she has found her pot of gold. Good day for it.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Thank you. I'm in a wonderful mood today.
As for the colleen ... she has found something better than a pot of gold.
She has found true happiness at last. It is a good day.
I wish you the best Moondog. Today and everyday.
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pipi_k
(21,020 posts)corned beef and cabbage, but gave up eating beef about six years ago.
So I made a New England boiled dinner yesterday
Daisy ham, cabbage, potatoes, carrots, and onion.
mmmm...mmmm!
Kali
(55,007 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)That's just me though.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)The sight of semi-transparent ball of cabbage leaves with those viens.....ugggghhh....( cringe ), and the smell! Corned beef just seems like a fatty low-grade meat to me, and the only way I'll eat cabbage is if it's thoroughly shredded; like sauerkraut and in certain Asian foods like Lumpia.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)a six pack and a boiled potato!
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Love your screenname!
Ptah
(33,024 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)when viewed by someone with a hangover
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm iffy on corned beef.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Try liver and onions!
love_katz
(2,578 posts)I hate corned beef and cabbage.
First time I ever had it, was in a New England boiled dinner. Yuk!
The only ways I can eat cabbage is in sour kraut, cabbage rolls, or Asian -type slaws. Regular coleslaw -
You folks who like CB&C...you can have my share.
Happy St. Paddy's day to those who celebrate...
And Happy (almost) Spring to all of us.