'Well, she was just 17, You know what I mean'

[onehandle]

If these lyrics were written by an adult today, and became a hit, what would be the outrage factor?

[Hoyt]

1. That is true, but man I loved those early songs.

[In_The_Wind]

2. In today's world, The Beatles would have been in trouble.

[pipi_k]

3. So would

the Rolling Stones...

for this one, at least...

[In_The_Wind]

4. Chantilly Lace by Jerry Lee Lewis

[redqueen]

5. Perhaps they would, but not for that.

This, though: "You better run for your life if you can, little girl. ... If I catch you with another man, that's the end, little girl."

But they changed, because later...

"I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept apart from the things that she loved
Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can"

Anyway I sincerely doubt that singing about how teenage girls are sexy/enticingly gullible would get any musician or group in trouble. There seems to be universal agreement that such subjects are acceptable. Even singing about their fuckable moms is A-OK.

Date rape lyrics, different story.

Things seem to be getting better. Albeit very, very slowly.

[In_The_Wind]

11. I never heard of Rick Ross before today ...

What he is saying today is not the words he was singing

In the song, Ross raps about giving a woman the drug MDMA, known as Molly, and having his way with her.

"Put Molly all up in her champagne, she ain't even know it, I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain't even know it," he raps on the track released in January. It gained traction in recent weeks after women's groups and rape victims issued petitions.

Don't try to sell me that line of bull crap!

Anything that is endorsed by Rick Ross ... I WILL NOT BUY!

[nomorenomore08]

16. In addition to being full of shit, he's not even a particularly good rapper.

Not to mention the rather bizarre hypocrisy of being a former prison guard who now raps about being a drug lord.

[rppper]

6. Another jailbait obsession song.....

"Such a bad girl...
Loves to work me over time...
Feels good...
Dancing close to the borderline"

Hair metal, but I like the crunchy bass/guitar sound....

Check out this video on YouTube:

[nomorenomore08]

7. I think it would depend in part on the age of the performer(s).

The Beatles, after all, were only in their early 20's at the time. Whereas Kip Winger was several years older than that when his own "Seventeen" song was released.

[MineralMan]

8. The age of consent in most places is

16 or 17, so no problem.

http://www.ageofconsent.us/

[rug]

9. Why people say Gilbert who?

[raccoon]

22. Now, that one really sounds creepy. nt

[Ptah]

10. The author could become a draft-dodging right wing ashole.

That Nadine, what a teenage queen
She come to town; she be foolin' around
She lookin' so clean, especi'lly down in between; what I like

It's all right
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang
A puttin' me down as a rock-and-roll clown



Wang dang, what a sweet poontang
A shakin' my thang as a rang-a-dang-dang in the bell
Down on the street you know she can't be beat
She's so sweet when she yanks on my meat
What the hell

Wang Dang Sweet Poontang

[nomorenomore08]

12. All the good taste and erudition we expect from "The Nuge"...

[TheMightyFavog]

13. "She was only sweet sixteen, but she looked a lot older"

The late, great, Levon Helm and the Cate Brothers Band. One of the greatest TV performances I've seen.

[mysuzuki2]

14. The Beatles weren't all that much older than 17

When they recorded this song. I saw them perform it on
Ed Sullivan in1964. Life was never the same again.

[nolabear]

15. I'll see your Beatles and raise you a Chuck Berry.

[nomorenomore08]

17. Considering he was almost 30 when he first hit it big, certain songs of his are rather creepy...

"She's too cute to be a minute over 17..." ("Little Queenie&quot

[nolabear]

19. True, but there was also no smarter businessman.

He knew who was coughing up their lunch money to buy those records. Not a lot of teens buy records about mature and dignified women. And he got the older crowd too, because thirty year olds do lust after teens and recall their own youth fondly. A win for Chuck!

[nomorenomore08]

20. Very true...

And as John Lennon once said, if you needed another name for rock'n'roll, you could call it Chuck Berry.

[antiquie]

18. So many choices,

Mellow Yellow
Donovan
I'm just mad about Fourteen
Fourteen's mad about me
I'm just mad about Fourteen
She's just mad about me

[onehandle]

24. I love that song. I always assumed that 'Fourteen' was the name of a female.

After all, it's capitalized in the lyrics.

For a long time I thought he was singing 'Fontaine.'

[antiquie]

25. Sorry, it is about 14 year-old-girls...

...Decades later, I had the opportunity to ask the man himself what that phrase meant and he told me, “It was from the back of a sex magazine. I saw this ad for a vibrating dildo. It had nothing to do with drugs.” Still, the track was mesmerizing. Arranged by John Paul Jones, who would go on to play bass in Led Zeppelin, and with Paul McCartney on background vocals, it would become the ubiquitous soundtrack of our times. You couldn’t escape it. On the live version, Donovan sings, “I’m just mad about 14-year-old girls/They’re just mad about me.” My, how times have changed.

Multiple sources, this from
http://www.goldminemag.com/features/the-case-for-donovan-belonging-in-the-rock-hall

And of course: Electrical banana=vibrating dildo

[astral]

21. You gotta hear it by the Jerry Garcia Band. Gotta Gotta Gotta.

[link:

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[antiquie]

26. Excellent, thanks

but Rock and Rye is horrid!

[raccoon]

23. How about if they changed the lyrics to "Well, she was just seventee!" (sic) (I mean 70.)

Would anyone object to that, do you think?

[Xithras]

27. Well, since the age of sexual consent in the UK and most of the US is 16...

...I'm guessing very little.

Of course, the fundies would whine about the perceived sexuality, just as they did when the song was released the first time. Fundies never change.

[mockmonkey]

28. Ringo

in a video with Carrie Fisher

You're Sixteen

[Bucky]

29. Abba's got a disco queen with an underage child, too, right?

Of course the acceptable age for going out dancing is a lot older.... mostly because of what rockers like Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, the Fab Four, and Abba's lecherous leading men do to 16 year olds. They have only themselves to blame.

(of course no one tops Steve Tyler for sheer debauchery)