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Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:33 AM Jan 2012

A Great Bit Of History Trivia For You All (France/Military)

La Marseillaise has long been the French National Anthem. It was originally written though as a fighting song, which is fairly evident given its vividly brutal lyrics. It was written to be screamed by men charging into battle at the top of their lungs. But that only happened once.

When and where was La Marseillaise sung as soldiers marched into battle and why was it sung?

(Please don't use Google to cheat, and if you do please don't post the answer here)
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A Great Bit Of History Trivia For You All (France/Military) (Original Post) Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 OP
Here's the answer... jk. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #1
French Revolution... ellisonz Jan 2012 #2
Nope. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #3
Something to do with French colonies like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia??? n/t WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #6
Wrong continent but closer. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #8
I think Ellison is partly correct RZM Jan 2012 #4
Yeah after further review... ellisonz Jan 2012 #15
Allons enfants de la patrie WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #5
I seem to have some vague memory from high school or college French studies... Denninmi Jan 2012 #7
The name comes from Marseille. It got renamed because some troops from Marseille were singing it as Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #9
I'm guessing near the very end of the Napoleonic Wars...? LanternWaste Jan 2012 #10
So? WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #11
Alright, alright. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #12
Every July 14 at the cottage, after a few too many glasses of wine, an aunt from France applegrove Jan 2012 #13
A the dedication to the Statue of Liberty or the Eiffel Tower or the Arc de' Triomphe? Tikki Jan 2012 #14

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
1. Here's the answer... jk.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:35 AM
Jan 2012

But I'm saving this space at the top of the thread to post it once somebody nails the answer.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. I think Ellison is partly correct
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jan 2012

I believe it originated in the foreign wars that broke out during the revolution (and largely because of the revolution). Who sang it I don't know, but seeing as those wars were kind of the birth of modern French patriotism and the song later became the national anthem, that's my guess.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
15. Yeah after further review...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:46 AM
Jan 2012

I'm inclined to think the wikipedia account is correct, and that the song, although perhaps not the title are French Revolution.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
7. I seem to have some vague memory from high school or college French studies...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jan 2012

That it originally didn't have any connection to Marseilles, which is on the Med. south coast of France. Had something to do with the Alsace-Lorraine region in the NE corner, or was written there or something.

And, I am positive that the original timeframe was during the French Revolution.

Beyond that, I don't recall. Such a fount of knowledge am I.

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
9. The name comes from Marseille. It got renamed because some troops from Marseille were singing it as
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jan 2012

a marching anthem during the French Revolution. That really doesn't get us to the soldiers singing this as they were going into battle though. Like I said, that's only recorded to have happened once.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. I'm guessing near the very end of the Napoleonic Wars...?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jan 2012

I'm guessing near the very end of the Napoleonic Wars, the last standing battle prior to Pappy Nappy getting booted to Elba (forget the name of the town....)?

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
12. Alright, alright.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:34 PM
Jan 2012

It was sung by Vietnamese paratroopers at the Battle of Dien Bien Phu during the First Indochina War. The French paratroopers fighting at that battle sung French paratrooper songs as they normally would, but the handful of battalions of Vietnamese paratroopers that had been raised just prior to the battle had no songs to sing. So they sang the only song that everybody present actually knew, La Marseillaise, which they'd been taught in the colonial schools.

applegrove

(118,630 posts)
13. Every July 14 at the cottage, after a few too many glasses of wine, an aunt from France
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jan 2012

would belt out that song. She was hilarious!

.............. There is your 'when' and 'why'. What do I win?

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
14. A the dedication to the Statue of Liberty or the Eiffel Tower or the Arc de' Triomphe?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jan 2012

I gon't know.


Tikki

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