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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:00 PM Dec 2013

question about water fowl

So last night I took the dog out in near zero weather. We live on the banks of a big river. I noticed by the light of the moon that the Canada geese were IN the river. Usually sthey spend the night nestled in a bay. But great bunches of them were IN the river, talking to each other as if settled there for the cold night.

It seemed like such a cold thing to do. Is it because the water is obviously warmer than the air? The water must be about 40 degrees. Just some ice along the shore this morning.

But what fantastic kind of skin do they have on their legs and feet to not freeze in sub-zero weather?

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question about water fowl (Original Post) grasswire Dec 2013 OP
I've thought of this before, too. Tobin S. Dec 2013 #1
Ever seen the gulls in the North Atlantic... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #2
Here ya go Paulie Dec 2013 #3
cool link In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #4
Good answer XemaSab Dec 2013 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #7
thanks, very interesting grasswire Dec 2013 #9
!!! MiddleFingerMom Dec 2013 #11
wish my feet were like that grasswire Dec 2013 #10
That would be nice, LOL B Calm Dec 2013 #12
They felt safe there because there were no hunters around at that time. n/t RebelOne Dec 2013 #6
good thought... grasswire Dec 2013 #8

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
1. I've thought of this before, too.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:05 PM
Dec 2013

It's amazing how those birds can tolerate frigid water. Sorry, I don't have any answers, though.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Ever seen the gulls in the North Atlantic...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:12 PM
Dec 2013

floating in the sounds between fishing trips and raiding the garbage dump? We have them all winter around here.

Waterfowl have a layer of special fat under the skin, similar to seals and other marine mammals, that reduces heat loss through the water and their skin, feet, eyes..., like other birds that survive northern winters, have evolved to deal with it. Feathers help, too

http://birding.about.com/od/birdingbasics/a/howbirdskeepwarm.htm

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
3. Here ya go
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:13 PM
Dec 2013
http://askanaturalist.com/why-don%E2%80%99t-ducks%E2%80%99-feet-freeze/

The Short Answer: It’s all about heat exchange, and the smaller the temperature difference between two objects, the more slowly heat will be exchanged. Ducks, as well as many other birds, have a counter-current heat exchange system between the arteries and veins in their legs. Warm arterial blood flowing to the feet passes close to cold venous blood returning from the feet. The arterial blood warms up the venous blood, dropping in temperature as it does so. This means that the blood that flows through the feet is relatively cool. This keeps the feet supplied with just enough blood to provide tissues with food and oxygen, and just warm enough to avoid frostbite. But by limiting the temperature difference between the feet and the ice, heat loss is greatly reduced.

Response to Paulie (Reply #3)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
8. good thought...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:32 AM
Dec 2013

....but there are no hunters here. We're in an urban area.

Good thinking, though. Thanks.

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