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You can learn a lot about a neighborhood from WiFi. (Original Post) rug Jan 2014 OP
I tried to scroll down. pintobean Jan 2014 #1
It only works if you're standing on one leg pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #2
I gave it my best pintobean Jan 2014 #6
We had one here not too long ago that was called Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #3
I wonder how someone could steal Jenoch Jan 2014 #8
what's the crypto? WEP, WPA/TKIP or WPA2/AES? Paulie Jan 2014 #14
It's WEP. Jenoch Jan 2014 #16
WEP has been broken for about a decade Paulie Jan 2014 #17
We got a new wireless router in April 2012. Jenoch Jan 2014 #19
Yes 2012 should definitely have WPA2... Locut0s Jan 2014 #20
Are you Borg? Jenoch Jan 2014 #23
Resistance is futile :P It depends on how paranoid you are ;)... Locut0s Jan 2014 #26
don't broadcast your network and secure that mofo NightWatcher Jan 2014 #4
Ok, I'm not the most computer savvy person there is, Jenoch Jan 2014 #11
It's a setting. You just don't publicly show your network NightWatcher Jan 2014 #12
I have a WEP key, is that good enough? Jenoch Jan 2014 #13
Actually as I was saying above turning off broadcasting doesn't provide much security.... Locut0s Jan 2014 #22
If you *do* broadcast your network ID, be creative... SeattleVet Jan 2014 #5
I saw one once that was called Jenoch Jan 2014 #15
Can I use "BigBootyJudy" as a song title? panader0 Jan 2014 #7
No pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #9
I'm more intrigued by "BigBootyJudy". Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #10
San Francisco hibbing Jan 2014 #18
If I can figure out how to reset my wifi BainsBane Jan 2014 #21
The SSID name should be fairly easy to change in the router setup.... Locut0s Jan 2014 #24
Here's the deal BainsBane Jan 2014 #25
It sounds like you may have inadvertently changed your routers IP address... Locut0s Jan 2014 #27
I don't think it has reset BainsBane Jan 2014 #29
Try this.... Locut0s Jan 2014 #30
flocking gone bad. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #28
Mine is called " Get of My LAwN " JesterCS Jan 2014 #31
Good one! JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #32
Mine is named Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #33
Can't see that image, but my router is called NSA Surveillance Drone. Orrex Jan 2014 #34
All but two networks around me are using unimaginative names Tyrs WolfDaemon Jan 2014 #35
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
8. I wonder how someone could steal
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jan 2014

a neighbor's wifi service? Ours has a 128 bit password. I don't know exactly what that means, but I know none of my neighbors could figure it out.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
14. what's the crypto? WEP, WPA/TKIP or WPA2/AES?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jan 2014

The first two are pretty easy to break, the first its trivial.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
16. It's WEP.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jan 2014

Is there software that easily breaks the code? The password we have is 26 characters, letters (upper and lower) and numbers. I suppose someone could break it, but I don't know why they would make the attempt.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
17. WEP has been broken for about a decade
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:21 AM
Jan 2014

It was designed poorly. If your wireless supports it you should be on WPA2 or a minimum of WPA.

Here's a short video on how its done. There are longer ones showing better detail. But everything done on this persons PC can be done with an Android phone.


&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. We got a new wireless router in April 2012.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jan 2014

Is that new enough for WPA2? If so, how do I make the change? I suppose I could Goggle it, but you seem to know your stuff.

A couple years ago our router went kaput and I usd our neighbors wifi for about a month. They are the ones without broadcasting their wifi now. They must have tech savvy grandchildren. I was hoping one of my kids or nephews would be a computer nerd, but I seem to know more than they do. I used to know everything about the system of pre-OSX Macs, not so much now.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
20. Yes 2012 should definitely have WPA2...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:29 AM
Jan 2014

Every router is set up differently so it's not possible to give step by step instructions in general. However there should be a wireless security tab or page etc in your routers setup. Usually it's a simple drop down box asking what type of encryption you want to use WEP through various types of WPA and WPA2. Chose WPA2 TKIP or AES (preferably AES if all your devises support it!) and choose a strong pass key. Of course all your devices have to support WPA2 as well. There may be a WPA/WPA2 option if some of your devices support WPA and not WPA2.

Actually turning off broadcasting of the SSID doesn't really give you much security. At best it prevents people from casually seeing the name of your wifi hotspot. But a hacker can still easily find your router even with SSID broadcasting turned off.

If you can try to use WPA2. As mentioned by Paulie WPA and especially WEP have been hacked for some time now. WEP is trivially easy to crack, WPA takes some hardware resources but it can be broken too. Breaking WPA2 doesn't yet seem quite practical, though I'm sure that will begin to change given the insane hardware now available in modern high end GPUs.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
23. Are you Borg?
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:36 AM
Jan 2014

I have more or less decided not to worry about the security of our wireless network. The odds of our wifi being targeted are slim enough for me to disregard the danger.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
26. Resistance is futile :P It depends on how paranoid you are ;)...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:07 AM
Jan 2014

I agree with you that the odds of you being targeted are probably very slim. People who are paranoid about this kind of thing seem to forget that wireless security is bounded to the range of your wireless signal, we are talking 30 to 100ft. However there are some good reasons to secure it. If you work for a large corporation such as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, or a major bank then you potentially become a target for corporate espionage. The same goes for working for a politician or some other areas of government. If you live on the bottom floor apartment right next to a busy downtown street then you are exposing your router signal to a lot of traffic, it's still unlikely that anyone would be interested in hacking in (with the above exceptions), but it's also a numbers game. For the rest of us it's not very likely we would be targeted.

Of much more importance are other security measures such as using a firewall, using strong passwords for you online banking and other sites, and more. It's much more likely that these kinds of things will get you into trouble then your router security.

Or if you are a nerd like me you just like securing it for the fun of it

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
11. Ok, I'm not the most computer savvy person there is,
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jan 2014

but how can I have wi-fi at home without 'broadcasting' the signal?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. It's a setting. You just don't publicly show your network
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jan 2014

You still access it but no one will see it when they search your neighborhood.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
13. I have a WEP key, is that good enough?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jan 2014

I never ran across a settting to hide the name of our network when I set it up. I think I have a neighbor who must have had someone set up her wifi in that way. I used to see her network, I know she's still online, but I don't see it anymore.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
22. Actually as I was saying above turning off broadcasting doesn't provide much security....
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:35 AM
Jan 2014

It prevents your neighbours from seeing the name of your router but a hacker can still easily find it. The choice to use WPA2/AES is what makes the true difference.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
5. If you *do* broadcast your network ID, be creative...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:09 PM
Jan 2014

Something like "NSA Monitoring Van #12" should be good.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
18. San Francisco
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

That's pretty funny. I was in San Francisco and there certainly were some interesting ones listed there, as I am sure there are everywhere.

Peace

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
21. If I can figure out how to reset my wifi
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:33 AM
Jan 2014

so I can use the router again, I'll have to come up with a more creative name. Fuck Big Booty Judy's Flamingos comes to mind, but that would be derivative.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
24. The SSID name should be fairly easy to change in the router setup....
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:38 AM
Jan 2014

It should be in the general wireless section of your routers setup. Though every router varies a bit.

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
25. Here's the deal
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:41 AM
Jan 2014

I was trying to reset the network key on the Belkin page and I managed to lock myself out of the router. I've tried resetting it using the pin hole on the back of the router, yet I can't get it to reset. Now I have to use an ethernet cable to get online.

I don't know what a SSID name is. I can't access the router at all from my computer. The message I get says the settings on the computer do not match the requirements of the network.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
27. It sounds like you may have inadvertently changed your routers IP address...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:15 AM
Jan 2014

Your router will be assigned an IP address by your service provided, this you can't change. But it also uses it's own range of IP addresses to address the computers connected directly to it, this forms a local area network. It's possible to change the IP address of the router without realizing it. If this happens you will have no way accessing the router. Though the reset you performed by the pin hole method should have set it back to factory defaults. Most routers use some variation on 192.168.0.1 or an address similar to this. If you type the correct address into your browsers address bar you will be asked to log into your router, you will need the correct login and password.

Do you have the exact model of your router? I may be able to find its factory default IP address, login and password.

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
29. I don't think it has reset
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 04:14 AM
Jan 2014

Nothing happens when I put a pin in the hole and hold it down.

Thanks for offering to help. My router is a Belkin G, model F5D7234-4 V5



Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
30. Try this....
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 04:33 AM
Jan 2014

It seems the default IP should be 192.168.2.1

Type that into the address bar of your web browser, assuming you are connected to it through a LAN cable, not wirelessly.

If things are working you should see the routers web interface. From there it may ask you for a password. It seems Belkin defaults to no password / blank by default which mean you can just click submit or ok upon being asked.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
31. Mine is called " Get of My LAwN "
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:19 AM
Jan 2014

the capital L-A-N being for Local Area Network =P. I know, cheesy, but makes me laugh

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
32. Good one!
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jan 2014

My son changes ours from time to time. we are in an apartment building and many have "Netgear1962" or a different year but Netgear's in all of them. My son re-named ours "NetgearIsForDaWeak" because he is a smart-ass.

Julie

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
35. All but two networks around me are using unimaginative names
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jan 2014

Things like:
Home101
2WIRE217
2WIRE389
...
2WIRE###
It is like they are all part Borg


I'm sure everyone on the block would love to get on mine. I named it ASGARD
As in the home of the Gods


The only other 'original' one is Rippy's WiFi



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