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A heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you are loved by others. (Original Post) alphafemale Jan 2014 OP
SO very true, my dear alphafemale... CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2014 #1
I will always remember that as the lesson from the Wizard of Oz! CurtEastPoint Jan 2014 #2
The world is a cruel place JonLP24 Jan 2014 #3
Followed a little later by my favorite line in the movie, the one Aristus Jan 2014 #4
awww In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #5
That could be interpreted as advice to be a cruel tyrant with a personality cult. JVS Jan 2014 #6
Don't agree. malthaussen Jan 2014 #7

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. The world is a cruel place
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jan 2014

Someone that is naive, trusting, and has a good heart will just get hurt over and over again. Cheated on, lied to, robbed, and abandoned. You stay being a good person even though it looks like the other than good ones are getting a better deal in life.

I guess what I'm saying is by that metric I have very few but have lots of love for people.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
4. Followed a little later by my favorite line in the movie, the one
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:11 PM
Jan 2014

that always makes me cry:

As the Tin Woodsman says goodbye to Dorothy: "Now I know I have a heart. Because it's breaking..."

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
7. Don't agree.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jan 2014

Or I should say, I think it is a rather ambiguous statement, and semantically equivalent to equating your worth to your popularity.

How do we quantize love to begin with? Who can know "how much" one person loves another, or even really "how much" a person loves oneself? What measuring system can we use? How do we apply the system to another individual? Suppose one to be innocent and believe the protestations of another that they are loved unconditionally, more than words can say. If that "lover" then decides otherwise, and it turns out that their love is a very small thing indeed, does that mean the innocent believer has a heart the size of a peanut? To evaluate one's own love by the love of another is semantically equivalent to saying that anyone who has not found love doesn't deserve it. I find that appalling.

If the intent of the quote is to convey the idea that the sheer number of people who claim to love you is the measure of your own heart (or worth), then it is an insidious idea that must inevitably shame the unpopular, the inept, and the isolated. Which is rather like running over a puppy with a truck. A baby my die known and loved only by grieving parents, but does the paucity of his acquaintance stand as the yardstick of his value, or his capacity to love? If we are to be evaluated by the number of people who cry at our funerals, then the most vicious and evil dictator imaginable would be said to have a great heart, if the people were forced to grieve on his passing. Or as a friend once asked me, "If I had died in childbirth at 16, would I just be nothing, then?"

It is a thought well-suited to Oz, that we always get what we deserve.

-- Mal

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