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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:48 PM Feb 2014

Ace Frehley on RRHOF: "I'm not gonna get on the stage with Tommy wearing my makeup. That's absurd."

Kiss Nix Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Performance After Lineup Dispute
"This is understandably an emotional situation where there is no way to please everyone," band says



Kiss announced today that the band won't be performing at their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony in April because disputes over the lineup churned up ill will among the members.

"This is understandably an emotional situation where there is no way to please everyone," Kiss said today in a statement on the band's website. "To bring this to a quick end, we have decided not to play in any line-up and we will focus our attention on celebrating our induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame."

Frehley revealed to a New York radio station on Friday night that the original lineup would not be performing at the ceremony, and said that he was not willing to perform alongside the newer members. "I'm not gonna get on the stage with Tommy wearing my makeup. That's absurd," he told Q104.3 FM, according to Blabbermouth.net. In a statement on his own website, Criss said that he and Frehley "have been denied a performance with Gene and Paul for our Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction," and called the situation "disgraceful."

According to the band's statement, however, there was no plan to exclude Frehley and Criss from the performance. "Our intention was to celebrate the entire history of Kiss and give credit to all members including long time present members Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer, and additionally Bruce Kulick and Eric Carr all who have made this band what it is, regardless of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame's point of view," the statement said. "It is over 13 years since the original lineup has played together in make-up and we believe the memory of those times would not be enhanced. Contrary to claims made through the media we have never refused to play with Ace and Peter."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kiss-cancel-rock-hall-of-fame-performance-after-lineup-dispute-20140223
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Ace Frehley on RRHOF: "I'm not gonna get on the stage with Tommy wearing my makeup. That's absurd." (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2014 OP
The fans come second. nt onehandle Feb 2014 #1
If I remember correctly... Miles Archer Feb 2014 #3
They've endured for sure, but KISS isn't KISS without Ace and Peter Populist_Prole Feb 2014 #5
KISS is PISS leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #2
They should just throw Vinnie Vincent up there and piss everyone off. Iggo Feb 2014 #4
Meh. HappyMe Feb 2014 #6

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. If I remember correctly...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:18 PM
Feb 2014

...RRHOF induction is based on the musicians who were in the band at the time of its first recording.

That's why Dave Mustaine had no claim on sharing the stage with Metallica...they threw him out before the first album was recorded.

In 2014, people pay money to see "KISS"...Gene, Paul, plus the other two guys...because all they really want to do is get high and hear "Detroit Rock City" really, really loud. There are purists in "The Kiss Army" but Gene and Paul have kept the cash cow alive.

I remember KISS at the time of the first album. I've listened to every version of the band but I still consider the "real" band to be the be the original four members. Gene and Paul can spin this any way they'd like but they know what the fans want...Ace, Peter, Paul & Gene, onstage and in full makeup. It's not about "making everybody happy." Who the hell wants to see Tommy Thayer onstage wearing Ace's makeup except, possibly, Tommy Thayer's mom?

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
5. They've endured for sure, but KISS isn't KISS without Ace and Peter
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

Some of their post Ace/Peter era is really good, but to me their stuff '73 to 76-77'-ish best defined their sound.

As I see it:

Gene sees himself as the brainchild of it all and probably is, but seems to regard KISS as himself and maybe Paul, and everyone else as hired hands

But Paul is the one most responsible for their basic "sound"

And Ace was the best musician

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