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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:03 AM Mar 2014

Have you ever known personally of a dog dying soon after being spayed?

Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:25 PM - Edit history (4)

I know all surgeries whether on people or animals carry some risk - but I didn't expect this to happen.

I happen to live in a place that is awash with stray dogs and a lack of programs to deal with them other than the municipal dog catchers whose only job is to catch and euthanize. There is only one veterinary clinic within hundreds of miles and I suspect this lack of competition leads to some price gouging. Although I don't honestly know what normal veterinary service prices are these days.

Anyway I already have a very nice 80 pound mixed breed male dog who has lived a pretty happy life with me for the past year and a half. But a number of strays come around looking for some food and actually some companionship. They are the friendliest strays you will ever find. A little native female dog had been coming around to my back porch for several months. I had been feeding her and occasionally allowing her to stay inside especially if it was raining. But knowing that spaying, inoculating and de-worming was sure to cost me a minimum of $1000 to $1400 I had kind of held off.

But last week I actually saw that she was in heat and actually saw her mating with a male dog. Well, not wanting to have a half a dozen unwanted puppies on my back porch and knowing that it was about time I got her some basic veterinary treatment anyway - I decided not to wait any longer. So I brought her in on Monday to have her checkup along with some basic shots and treatments and to schedule a spaying surgery for Tuesday. The vet did tell me that the little dog did have a number of worms, parasites and other common dog illnesses along with inflamed and possibly cystic ovaries. But when I called Tuesday afternoon the surgery was over and it appeared to go just fine - I could pick the dog up to bring home. Of course the poor little thing acted sluggish and somewhat in pain - but, I assumed that was normal. But the following day, Wednesday the little dog would still not eat and seemed to be feeling sick and in pain. So, I took the little dog back to the veterinary clinic when things had not improved by Wednesday afternoon. The vet felt that the dog might be experiencing some typical post surgical pain - but all the essential signs remained positive. He even called me in the early evening to let me know that they had taken the dog for a walk and she was wagging her tail and looking well and no longer reacted to palpating the abdominal area. He could see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pick up the dog in the afternoon the following day.

Then to my shock when I called back this morning the vet very somberly told me, "I'm very sorry, but we lost the dog last night." He was fine when they checked her at about 7:30 pm. Two hours later when they did a routine check - she had already died. The vet's only explanation is that the dogs underlining illnesses from worms and parasites to tick disease to cystic ovaries were just too much. There was absolutely no bleeding in the surgical area - but apparently the dog went into pancreatitis with DIC and simply died of other internal bleeding.

Of course neutering and spaying is very important. But in the future I would be inclined to deal with any underlining illnesses first.

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woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
1. DIC (disseminated intravascular coagulation) can be due to other infections, even staph infections.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:28 AM
Mar 2014

My mother went through that when she passed away. Unless it was due to a known treatable cause, like an identified infection, then there is not much that could be done about it. Sounds like the little doggie may have just had a weakened immune system with all the other things she had going on. I think your idea about dealing with underlying illnesses is a good plan.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
2. Any vet that would charge $1000 to $1400
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:29 AM
Mar 2014

to spay/neuter, inoculate and deworm a dog has no business being a vet and is probably going to have a hard time staying in business unless he caters to the wealthy. All those services should cost well under $400. I can't even imagine what he/she charges for all the other services. I can't even begin to imagine how many family pets go untreated (and how many unwanter puppies and kittens are born) because their owners can't afford the vet's prices.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
3. Depends on where he is located and cost of getting supplies?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:44 AM
Mar 2014

He did say it was the only vet within hundreds of miles.

I live in s. Texas where there are pockets of people every 30 or 40 miles. I think that is isolated. Can't even imagine hundreds of miles!

I picked up a stray and had her fixed and completely checked out for diseases. Total was a little over 500.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
5. This happens to be on the Pacific Island of Saipan. Outside of Guam and Hawaii he is the only vet
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:50 AM
Mar 2014

in the U.S. territories in the Pacific. Although Caucasians are less than 10% of the Island's population of 53,000 - they make up the vast majority of people who bring their pets to him. The rest are relatively wealthy Asians and Pacific Islanders. Although some inoculation services are available through a government program - there is no place for spaying or neutering or any clinical veterinary treatment. It would certainly cost more to fly the animal to Guam and even that wouldn't be allowed without having the health certificates that only this vet can release and would require the inoculations and treatments anyway. Thus he has a captive audience - so spending a rock bottom minimum of $1000 for the basics is all that is available. Of course for the vast majority here - there are no veterinary services at all. Dogs continue to over populate since only a minority of the population can afford such services.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
6. That sucks.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:02 PM
Mar 2014

As much as I love having my furbabies, there is no way that I would take any in if I could not afford to take care of them properly. Sorry for the loss of your new friend.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. ok, that explains the price
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:10 PM
Mar 2014

and it may not be price gouging. It's probably expensive shipping in supplies and equipment.

I am sorry for your loss...

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
14. I prefer to assume the best of intentions from people.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

I would say that this little doggie was extremely sweet and friendly and always reacted positively to any attention. I would have to also say that this particular vet is one of the least popular people on Saipan. People do think he price gouges. He doesn't seem to be aware at all that many people might have trouble affording basic veterinary care for their animals if they have to spend well over $1000 per animal for the basics. Once some time ago when I was just chatting with him I made the comment that a lot of people can't afford proper veterinary care. He replied, "People can afford anything they want - if they just try." He also made it clear that those who don't have much money - it is entirely their own fault." St Francis of Assisi he is not.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
4. it sounds like there were underlying issues that needed to be tended first
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:44 AM
Mar 2014

So having puppies may well have killed her as well. I'm surprised the vet didn't recommend doing other work first -- de-worming in particular -- keeping her in for observation and waiting a week or two.

And that price is outrageous and price-gouging, nothing less.

I just took my kidnapped cat who spent much of the last year semi-feral to the vet on Tuesday. He examined her, de-wormed and gave her a rabies shot first, and said to wait at least a week before he gives her distemper and anything else. She appears in good health and weight, with no outward symptoms of anything amiss, but still he felt it best to wait before stressing her system further.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. Very sad...it does happen...I've seen it happen to cats at the clinic
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:19 PM
Mar 2014

not often, but it's not rare...usually it's the anesthesia that does it because the cat had had some undetermined heart problem.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
9. I lost one a number of years ago.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:21 PM
Mar 2014

it wasn't right away, but within a couple weeks. I was too poor at the time to have an autopsy and we buried her. Not sure if it was related to the surgery or not, but no other real explanation.

Around here they won't spay while animals are in obvious heat and it is extra $ if they are bred. Must be a bit of risk for either case so that may have contributed too. Sorry you lost your new friend and the money too. I sure know how it goes.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
11. I suppose spaying a dog in active heat who also has a few underlying health problems was not a good
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:27 PM
Mar 2014

idea.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
10. I heard of a vet who lost a full grown great dane during neutering.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:09 PM
Mar 2014

He nicked a vessel and lost it to hemorrhage.

narnian60

(3,510 posts)
12. Thank you for trying to help her
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:44 PM
Mar 2014

and for trying to keep the pet population down around you. If I lived around a lot of strays I would go nuts. Have adopted several cats and 3 dogs from my street in my 30 years of living here, but if there were a lot of them around a lot of the time, (and, of course, one can't adopt them all), I would be a basket case.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
13. what makes it all the harder is that most of the strays around here are very sweet and very friendly
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:01 PM
Mar 2014

This little dogie just wanted to love everybody

PaulLopez03

(3 posts)
16. Have you ever known personally of a dog dying soon after being spayed?
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:08 AM
Jan 2018

A puppy passing along after of being spay he medical advantages of the long keeps running far to exceeding the resulting of this happening... as everybody has thought its extremely unusual.

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