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hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:57 AM Feb 2012

Profile insight on a fundie

I was checking out someone on FB, and was reading their profile and realized this is what we have to deal with every day. This is from their public profile, not private. But it just goes to show that these people are really not afraid of us, and they think they have it all in the bag--I like to think they're utterly deplorable, but I'm sure they think the same about us--you know, us, the "devil's work."

I consider myself godless (personally) and therefore without a devil, since the devil is a Xtian construct, but of course, they know better, don't they?



Religious Views: Full Bible believing Christian and follow the will of the HOLY GHOST to lead my path. I am NOT religious but, I am Godly.

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Political Views: Conservative IndependentWill only believe in and vote for those things which are godly and Biblically sound.



I would like to know more about these kinds of people on a psychological basis. There really IS something sick and twisted about their behavior.
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hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
4. Thankfully, the religious right
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 04:21 AM
Feb 2012

is getting a massive dose of that right now with the contraception controversy. The fact that the repukes have now been unmasked as enemies of all women should make a huge difference in the way they vote. I think there will be plenty of women everywhere who will be very glad that their ballots are cast secretly, because they will want to make sure controlling male figures around them don't see how they're actually going to vote.

Any man who believes he controls the women in his life might be unpleasantly surprised if he found out the truth!

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
2. It's not a pathological condition. The Dunning–Kruger effect describes it pretty well
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:39 AM
Feb 2012

Basically it means you're stupid and your idiocy robs you of the ability to recognize your own stupidity. Personally I think it should be renamed as the Sarah Palin effect so people could more easily identify it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
3. Interesting
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 04:17 AM
Feb 2012

I was just talking about something similar with a friend yesterday.

I was talking about how someone with intelligence can fake ignorance much better than a stupid person trying to fake intelligence. I used the old Star Trek episode of "Mirror, Mirror" as an exampple, when our earth's Mr. Spock was able to determine that the mirrow universe's warmongering and violent Kirk tried to pull off being our Kirk.

When our Kirk returned from the mirror universe, he asked Spock about it, and Spock told him the reason, that the mirror Kirk and other crewmemners simply could not pull off acting the parts of civilized people.

The thing is, I used to know this person, what seems like a lifetime ago, and this person was not always stupid. They had a job in the educational system, and even have a masters degree. On that level, they were wholly a different person than they are now.

I confess, I don't them any more. Our acquaintence disappeared about 8 years ago, and now I'm completely shocked--in their case, it seems the mirror universe counterpart has completely possessed them mentally, and they need more than an exorcism to get them back to their old self.

But thanks--that Wiki entry kind of pegs them down quite nicely.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
5. This quote from Bertrand Russell sums it up nicely
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:02 AM
Feb 2012
One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision


We need an absolute frustration smiley.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
7. I was surprised to read that this study was awarded the Ig Nobel prize
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

Seems like a fairly worthy investigation to me.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
6. I see this all the time. It's why I don't talk openly about my politics or religion
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:24 AM
Feb 2012

On some level, I'm actually concerned about repercussions to my family or property.

I find that people of that mode of thinking assume not only that they're correct but also that theirs is the default view, like "we're all white, bigoted neo-Christians, right?"

It's why I find the deliberate affectation "have a blessed day" to be so stupid and artificial. It's yet another way that people on the Right try to marginalize and trivialize every other opinion and mindset.

hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
8. Ultimately, it's their insistence that they mold and shape other people
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:13 PM
Feb 2012

into their cult that makes me angriest.

My old ex-friend used to smugly tell me that she had put me into a Pat Rovertson "prayer circle"to help my soul. I mean, come on==if someone wants nothing to do with that kind of crap, their wishes should be honored.

I think the deed of involving someone in their cult in any way possible against their wishes is just a deed of arrogance is disturbing. At some point, the other person has captured our soul, and made the assumption, in their eyes, that we need to be "saved" by them. It's frustrating, but the act based on their arrogance is hubris of the highest order. No other religious group tries that hard to convert someone who doesn't want to have anything to do with them. I can honestly say that when I've talked with some adherents to different religious groups, that my curiosity was satisfied in learning something new, but I never felt like there was someone who was looking down at me from an allegedly superior viewpoint.

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